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Old 01-18-2007, 04:44 AM
JROK777 JROK777 is offline
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Default UTG JJ getiing 3 bet PF

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $50
UTG+1: $19.35
CO: $49.50
Button: $60.25
SB: $109.85
BB: $211.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $7.5</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $17</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $17 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $27.75

I don't know if I played this correctly on any street. On the turn, if a no overcards or a heart fell, should I be calling another bet here? When you get 3 bet PF in spots like this, what kind of odds do you need to be getting to call for set value. I've heard everthing from 8-20 to 1 on the $. Should I play JJ for set value against this PF action, or should have I made a stab at the pot on the flop?
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: UTG JJ getiing 3 bet PF

this looks okay. i think you'll see an overpair here alot. i doubt he's doing this with 99 and the like...well played.
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: UTG JJ getiing 3 bet PF

I think you are too passive. I either lead or c/r against standard villain.
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:58 AM
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I think you are too passive. I either lead or c/r against standard villain.

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what worse hands are calling a c/r on the flop?
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: UTG JJ getiing 3 bet PF

Hm. Well, with c/r-ing you're able to take down a pot against lesser hands instead of being in a difficult situation OOP or paying off AK/AQ which might hit their pair later on.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:35 AM
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Hm. Well, with c/r-ing you're able to take down a pot against lesser hands instead of being in a difficult situation OOP or paying off AK/AQ which might hit their pair later on.

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You also donate when villain has a higher pair (majority of the time in this situation).

b/f flop OR c/c flop, c/f turn are both fine IMO.

OP, read up on the 5-10 rule in regards to calling w/ PPs for set odds.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:38 AM
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I fold this preflop like 80% of the time.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:41 AM
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I fold this preflop like 80% of the time.

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Really? You think AK/AQs etc are not in his range?
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: UTG JJ getiing 3 bet PF

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I think you are too passive. I either lead or c/r against standard villain.

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what worse hands are calling a c/r on the flop?

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I prefer to bet/fold actually, depends on villain.
You get called by 99, FD, AK with a heart and even AK without a heart (AK = nutz).
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:59 AM
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I fold this preflop like 80% of the time.

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This is too weak. What makes you call the other 20%?
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