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Old 02-07-2006, 01:06 PM
Tim. Tim. is offline
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Default KJs drawing hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button is TAG.


Button ($428.01)
SB ($878)
BB ($297)
UTG ($76.60)
Hero ($387.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold</font>, Hero raises to $14</font>, Button calls $14, 2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25.

Turn: ($84) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80.

River: ($244) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $309.01 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $553.01
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: KJs drawing hand

How many outs did you think you had on the flop?
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: KJs drawing hand

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How many outs did you think you had on the flop?

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Between 8-15, probably about 12 on average. I thought I had strong implied odds if my flush got there. I would have mucked turn, but picking up the gutshot was huge. Plus his strong bet made me feel like we get it all in if I hit the gut shot or flush.
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: KJs drawing hand

why not bet the flop?
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: KJs drawing hand

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How many outs did you think you had on the flop?

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Between 8-15, probably about 12 on average. I thought I had strong implied odds if my flush got there. I would have mucked turn, but picking up the gutshot was huge. Plus his strong bet made me feel like we get it all in if I hit the gut shot or flush.

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So with 12 outs you needed better than 3-1 pot to call.

If you think the implied odds were there, go for it.

You didnt have position so you could min-raise hoping for a free card.

If anything, this hand should set you up nice later down the road pretending you are drawing and lead out on a blank. It will look like a steal
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:07 PM
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Bet and most likely push the flop if raised. I don't know how you could check call this, very weak poker.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:09 PM
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Bet and most likely push the flop if raised. I don't know how you could check call this, very weak poker.

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Because he is most likely a 3-1 dog?
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: KJs drawing hand

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.6566 % 45.66% 00.00% { KhJh }
Hand 2: 54.3434 % 54.34% 00.00% { QcQd }
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:42 PM
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2 overs + flushdraw is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:09 PM
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So pot the flop, and push if raised is the best line here?

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