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Old 01-15-2007, 02:35 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

Villain has LAG stats over small sample. No reads beyond that.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($207.05)
MP ($150.35)
Hero ($200)
Button ($241.30)
SB ($290.50)
BB ($98.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, Button calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

<font color="blue"> I was going for the C/R A/I here. Didn't work.
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River: ($41) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $50.

<font color="blue"> I fire a 1/2 pot blocking bet.

His raise really makes no sense, unless he backdoored a flush. I'm not buying that he has a straight. The only straight draw on the flop is 5-4, and he would have bet the turn with that. He either has a flush or he has air. Thoughts on the call?</font>

Final Pot: $181
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:37 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

why are you making a 'blocking bet' in this spot? Just make a normal valuebet, and fold to a raise. you are losing too much value with these small bets. as played, he is never value raising a worst hand, so its probably a fold considering how weird/tricky he played it.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:42 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

River was a value/blocking bet. It's pretty hard for him to call more than 1/2 pot with just one pair on that board, don't you think?

After he raised I suspected that he sensed weakness on my part and tried to take it away. My hand is underrapped and doesn't look like two pair anyway.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:45 AM
josh_x josh_x is offline
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

Bet more for the value reasons isura stated. If you had bet 32 then you wouldn't have convinced yourself to make a bad call. And people always call these bets with pairs, because they put you on AK.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

1/2 pot river bet is a blocking bet? For me 1/2 pot bets on the river in decent sized pots are usually value bets. Also why the hell did you check the turn? Were you going for a c/r? I'd prefer just to bet and get value from Tx hands unless you think he'll bet these and you can c/r, still I just prefer to bet.

On the river I'd probably call because his play makes no sense unless he has exactly 44/55
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

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Also why the hell did you check the turn? Were you going for a c/r?

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Yes, it says in blue...

Villain is aggresive and probably floats me fairly often in position. This is why I was going for a C/R.
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

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Also why the hell did you check the turn? Were you going for a c/r?

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Yes, it says in blue...

Villain is aggresive and probably floats me fairly often in position. This is why I was going for a C/R.

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Ah I see now. IN that case I guess it's fine. I might worry that villain was floting you but checked the turn when he picked up a flush draw. I might call but it really feels like villain has a straight/flush and is milking you.
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

I don't get why you make a blocking bet if you're not going to fold to a raise anyway.
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: River blocking bet gets raised. Call this?

this is why I hate blocking bets

You make bets to make your decisions easier but you still have no idea where you stand if you're raised

Just check/call or make a value bet, blocking bets are bad
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