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Old 01-14-2007, 05:09 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

This is one of the first few hands, so no real reads on villain(s).

UTG (t1930)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t920)
MP3 (t1590)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1580)
SB (t1540)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t20, SB calls t10, <font color="red">Hero raises to t120</font>, UTG calls t100, Button calls t100, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

Flop: (t400) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t150</font>, UTG calls t150, Button calls t150

Turn: (t850) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t600</font>, UTG calls t600, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

River: (t2050) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t1060 (All-in)</font>,<font color="gray">Hero...? </font>

Comments on all streets are welcome.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:12 PM
imsobroke imsobroke is offline
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

I'd have bet 300 on the flop, very draw heavy board. Then push turn.

As played river is a fold.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:13 PM
AMT AMT is offline
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

bet more on the flop. on the turn unless you can specifically put them on the broadway straight, i would just shove. as played on the river i dont see how you can be ahead ever...
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

Is that flop bet a mistype?! I mean, most of the 60$ players should be smart enough to see that its a sucker-bet. And it doesnt accomplish anything.
In a 3-way pot you can easily bet 400 and shove most turns.
Fancy plays don`t get you anywhere if Villains have a little clue whats going on...

As played river is prolly a fold. This is the worst card ever, since it completes like every draw. You are getting ~4:1 (700 in a 2800 pot), but the prob. is that you really only beat a bluff.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

this can't be KQ enough to make this a call? I'm new to Sng's and nl in general (was a micro limit player). I know things aren't good here, but it seems a decent number of players in these low levels like to get all their chips in very early (and badly) in the tournament. I also suck at letting go of big hands on the river.

Did the villian make a call with AJ on the flop? I wouldnt have (unless suited hearts).

Did he call the 600 with a flush draw? I wouldn't have.

I know its a mistake to think that players play the same way I do, but that's why I have trouble folding the river. I know I suck still at these, thank god most of the other players are even worse.

Guess I should mention I didn't pay attention to the fact that this is $60, I've only played $16's.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

non-diamond Jack on river and I think I call. But the big mistake is your under-bet on the flop.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:51 PM
johnnyrocket johnnyrocket is offline
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Default Re: $60 Turbo on Stars; Screwed myself with top set...fold the river?

must fold the river here, you should push that flop harder with that scary of a board, otherwise decently played
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