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Old 01-11-2007, 06:40 PM
Poker Gestalt Poker Gestalt is offline
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Default 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

Villain is 26/13/3.9 after 125 hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB


I called the flop figuring I had 6 outs. Which in hindsight is wrong. But then i get luck [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]... but then i get unlucky [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Comments on all streets please.

Edit: I didnt know if i should have called this river but i justified it for myslef (probably wrong) because i was getting 9:1.
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

lol no one has an opinion on this hand?
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

I really don't think the play was too bad. The river was dirty I presume.
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

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I called the flop figuring I had 6 outs.

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Why six? Getting 5.5:1, you'd need 7-8 outs to call. You have five, no?
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

About the flop - are you saying counting 6 outs was wrong, or calling with 6 outs was wrong?
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

Both. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] You have 5 outs - two 8's and three 9's. I don't know where the sixth out is comming from. But even with six outs, you don't get the odds (though it's close; however, your implied odds aren't too great with just one guy left...).

edit: nevermind. I just realized you weren't talking to me... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:49 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

I'd rather bet-fold the river than check-call. Villain can play too well when you check to him.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

Not a fan of the river check/call
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

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I called the flop figuring I had 6 outs.

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Why six? Getting 5.5:1, you'd need 7-8 outs to call. You have five, no?

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The 6th out is my BDSD... And I called figureing that if i hit i would earn at least 2 more big bets from villain giving me enough implied odds.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: 89o in BB middle pair and BDSD

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Not a fan of the river check/call

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Should i bet this instead?


EDIT: sorry i didnt see this...

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I'd rather bet-fold the river than check-call. Villain can play too well when you check to him.

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what about the flop though? as played... meaning since i checked, do i have the implied odds to call? Also how do i respond to a raise if i bet out?...would i call and c/f a missed turn?
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