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Old 01-11-2007, 03:05 PM
calidris calidris is offline
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Default QQ and 3-flush flop

I've run really dry and played maybe 5 hands in 80 and not hitting any flops at this table. Villan has been around for 3 orbits and I'm sure he's tight and very careful(passive). I've seen him limp JJ, AQs, AKo in MP.

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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero ?


Villains flop bet was kinda surprising because I expected him to check to the PF raiser. Calling here won't do me much good so i decide to raise him. Should I have folded?

Then he bets out again on the turn and obviously the flush draw doesn't scare him. Obvious fold?
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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Calling here won't do me much good

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Why's that?
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

Against this guy I'm probably going to call down and lose to the flopped flush or trip Ks. The flop raise is bad because you don't have a diamond and anyone who does isn't going anywhere.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:18 PM
Befolder Befolder is offline
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

If there weren't an over to your pair, I'd say call again. We're likely toast in most situations here though so I think a fold is safe. Villain probably just hit two pair, possibly w/ a diamond.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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I've run really dry and played maybe 5 hands in 80 and not hitting any flops at this table. Villan has been around for 3 orbits and I'm sure he's tight and very careful(passive). I've seen him limp JJ, AQs, AKo in MP.

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Sounds like the type of player to bet a weak hand on a monotone board...
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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I've run really dry and played maybe 5 hands in 80 and not hitting any flops at this table. Villan has been around for 3 orbits and I'm sure he's tight and very careful(passive). I've seen him limp JJ, AQs, AKo in MP.

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Sounds like the type of player to bet a weak hand on a monotone board...

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The only real indication of post flop play in his read is passive.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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I've run really dry and played maybe 5 hands in 80 and not hitting any flops at this table. Villan has been around for 3 orbits and I'm sure he's tight and very careful(passive). I've seen him limp JJ, AQs, AKo in MP.

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Sounds like the type of player to bet a weak hand on a monotone board...

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The only real indication of post flop play in his read is passive.

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Aaron is saying that players who are passive and tight pre-flop tend to be so post-flop.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:14 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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I've run really dry and played maybe 5 hands in 80 and not hitting any flops at this table. Villan has been around for 3 orbits and I'm sure he's tight and very careful(passive). I've seen him limp JJ, AQs, AKo in MP.

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Sounds like the type of player to bet a weak hand on a monotone board...

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The only real indication of post flop play in his read is passive.

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Aaron is saying that players who are passive and tight pre-flop tend to be so post-flop.

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Do passive players donk this flop with air?
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

OP,

Did you notice that you picked up a straight draw?
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: QQ and 3-flush flop

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Do passive players donk this flop with air?

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Not in my experience.
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