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Old 01-11-2007, 12:05 PM
banditdad banditdad is offline
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Default Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

I think folding this was best, though based on the opp's aggression I really gave some thought to capping.
UTG is 58/31. Button is 60/44. I have about 100 hands on them and they seem to have it in for each other.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, hero folds, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (13.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: 21.75BB
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:09 PM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

"UTG is 58/31. Button is 60/44. "

you have the nuts. calling/capping, doesn't matter too much. you should try hard not just to see the flop but to see a showdown.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

I'd call pf.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:33 PM
SteveGriff SteveGriff is offline
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

Against these two monkeys I'd want to see a flop and tread carefully.
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

TT is an obvious cap here. A better question is: What is our range here?

I'm going to go with 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KTs+, KJo+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s. Capping 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQo
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

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TT is an obvious cap here. A better question is: What is our range here?

I'm going to go with 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KTs+, KJo+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s. Capping 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQo

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your range is just about identical to mine but I am going to just call with some of my RIO hands like 77/88 and offsuit broadways like AT/AJ/AQ/KQ. I also might puss out on some hands like 98s/T9s depending on how these dudes typically play the flop (at the same time I might add in smaller pairs)
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

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TT is an obvious cap here. A better question is: What is our range here?

I'm going to go with 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KTs+, KJo+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s. Capping 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQo

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your range is just about identical to mine but I am going to just call with some of my RIO hands like 77/88 and offsuit broadways like AT/AJ/AQ/KQ. I also might puss out on some hands like 98s/T9s depending on how these dudes typically play the flop (at the same time I might add in smaller pairs)

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The reason I chose to cap those hands is that I think UTG will cap anything better then them. So the only time we're going to get in for only 3 bets is when we would have rather capped having seen UTG hand.

It should be noted that capping absolutely does not obligate us to lead the flop here. If we get a bad flop, marginal hands should be c/f'ed.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Should I Have Plyed This Pre-Flop?

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TT is an obvious cap here. A better question is: What is our range here?

I'm going to go with 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KTs+, KJo+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s. Capping 77+, A8s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQo

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your range is just about identical to mine but I am going to just call with some of my RIO hands like 77/88 and offsuit broadways like AT/AJ/AQ/KQ. I also might puss out on some hands like 98s/T9s depending on how these dudes typically play the flop (at the same time I might add in smaller pairs)

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The reason I chose to cap those hands is that I think UTG will cap anything better then them. So the only time we're going to get in for only 3 bets is when we would have rather capped having seen UTG hand.

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sick leveling there man
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