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Old 01-10-2007, 07:34 PM
nogenius nogenius is offline
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Default 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($58.60)
MP ($17.15)
Hero ($50)
Button ($75.25)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($65.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, Button calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $18</font>, Hero ???

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All I know about Villian is that he is about 35/7/1 over an insignificant 24 hands.

What's your turn play here and why?
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

I probably fold here.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

fold is goot.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

fold is good

FDs will basically never do this

weaker queens never do this

bluffs rarely do this, they're usually bigger

you are almost always beaten

i like your line, bet fold is good...
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

fold all day. think about villain's range here...
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:10 PM
ChipsAhoya ChipsAhoya is offline
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

Why is this such a clear fold?

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think about villain's range here...

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Villain could have 67s-78s or I guess KK, but isn't JJ-88 likely to float the flop?

-ChipsAhoya
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL TPTK on good turn, Villian minraises

So maybe JJ or TT raises there, but rarely and not min. Most draws are raising you on the flop or shoving in a really big bet such that they get the most fold equity. I have a hard time believing even AQ, though AcQc isn't out of the question. More often than not this is 2 pair or a set/trips. I think you do fold the best hand here occasionally, but not as often as you pay off a better hand if you don't fold. The question is, do you want to put you're whole stack in on the river? If you call, you'll have less than $30 behind and that will all go in on the river.
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