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Old 01-10-2007, 08:48 AM
PwntFTW PwntFTW is offline
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Default KK UTG 100 NL

I don't have the exact hand history, so I'll just relay the important info here.

I have been playing like a nit, and have raised a few times from EP in the last 5 rotations,($4) each time, showing down KK and AA. My stack is ~200 at 100 NL and I look down at KK from UTG. I raise to $4, the table folds, and a tight player pushes for $160 from the button.

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Old 01-10-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: KK UTG 100 NL

How tight is the player? Has he done this before?

My instinct says easy call, but you're quite deep.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: KK UTG 100 NL

Have not seen this move before, and the last time he villian played AA he did not open push. What concerned me most is was how obvious my range is here. I'm transitioning to cash from tournaments, and I don't think I've ever folded KK preflop in a tourney. If his range is only AA and AK, this is a losing call, where KK dominates AK way less that AA v KK. Is this way too tight of range to put a villian in SSNL on? Throw in QQ to that range and it's a winning call. I went in to the tank, and ended up folding KK preflop (maybe the first time).

Terribly donkish?
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:04 AM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Dont assume these players see how often you're raising. Most don't have PT/HUD so they dont necessarily know if you're tight/loose. They concentrate mainly on their own cards. If you've been fairly loose/agg from LP, he's not going to peg you as a nit. I don't think I'd fold, but I dont HATE folding in this spot.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG 100 NL

call it
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:07 PM
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Would he really play aces like that? I call instantly.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:15 PM
LionelHutz00 LionelHutz00 is offline
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plz insta-call
plz don't show your hands unless you have to
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:16 PM
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I'm never EVER folding this in this situation
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG 100 NL

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If his range is only AA and AK, this is a losing call, where KK dominates AK way less that AA v KK.

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Even if his range were AA/AK/KK it's not a disaster. I think you're underestimating your equity vs. that range. I'm sure someone could show that it's only slightly -EV. Since there has to be some chance he'll do this with QQ, etc. and there is a chance he wouldn't do it with AA, you have to call.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG 100 NL

I still have yet to fold KK preflop online. There are 6 combinations of AA, 1 combination of KK, and 8 combinations of AK. Your more likely to see AK here than anything else.

If we add in QQ there are 6 more combinations. So if we tighten his range to AA/AK/KK/QQ, the odds we are against AA are 6/21 = 28%. I like my KK even more here.
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