Dummy-ended straightened mullets (77)!

[nickabourisk]

Villain is 54/12/1.77 after 59 hands. Nothing else known.

I should be raising PF with 77 in CO right?

hand: http://www.pokerhand.org/?724430

How should I play PF and every street?

[Scotty.]

Yes, you should be open-raising 77 in the CO. I would be open-raising it from any position.

Turn is fine, and just call down after his raise.

[nickabourisk]

Okay, thanks Scotty. What about the flop when it's checked to me and there are 3 overs?

Down to which pocket pairs will you raise with from any position. Shouldn't we look to flop a set with small PP and that's it? I know that at Pacific Poker, unless it's a tighter table, you won't get people to fold with continued aggression, and PF raises aren't respected as lots will call 2 or 3 cold. In my case, should I just raise PF and drop them to boards with 2+ overs when someone bets into me? Should I bet out if checked to me as in this situtation?

[Scotty.]

Flop bet is just fine. In a 3-way unraised pot, I will basically always bet when checked to and last to act if I have any pair. If the flop were a little less coordinated, I would occasionally make the bet with any 2 after it was checked to me by both players.

I'll raise down to 66 from any position, and 55 occasionally. When first to act, I am folding everything else (22-44 and 55 sometimes) unless there are perfect table conditions. That would be when everyone after me was extremely loose and very passive, meaning there is a VERY high chance I'm seeing the flop with 4+ players without much fear of it being raised behind.

[TomBrooks]

Open raise preflop good.

JT8 FD flop not good for you. Bet/fold OK.

Bet the 9 turn as you did and fold immediately to that raise.

[Scotty.]

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Bet the 9 turn as you did and fold immediately to that raise.

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There's no way we can fold this turn. We are getting 5:1 and there are a ton of possibilities for his hand that we beat. He needed to have check-called the flop with a gutshot Q (or made straight) to be ahead of us now. He could have a set, 2-pair, flush draw, 7 for a split or a ton of other hands that we beat.

[TomBrooks]

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Bet the 9 turn as you did and fold immediately to that raise.

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There's no way we can fold this turn. We are getting 5:1 and there are a ton of possibilities for his hand that we beat.

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I don't think so, Scotty. I think if he raises he has a Queen King-Queen for a better straight 99% of the time.

[johnnyrocket]

lead out flop and bet/fold

[nickabourisk]

Suppose villain just calls on turn. What's my action if checked to on river? If checkraised? If bet into?

[Scotty.]

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Bet the 9 turn as you did and fold immediately to that raise.

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There's no way we can fold this turn. We are getting 5:1 and there are a ton of possibilities for his hand that we beat.

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I don't think so, Scotty. I think if he raises he has a Queen King-Queen for a better straight 99% of the time.

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You're saying a relatively unknown 54/12 player is not going to raise a set, two pair, a bluff or any other hand 1 out of 100 times on this board? I find that pretty hard to believe.

I realize you are probably exaggerating a little with your 99% number to make your point (at least I hope you are). I still think this call down is reasonable though.