AA flop decision?

Biosludge · #1 01-08-2007, 07:41 PM

Villian here is a 22/14 regular who seems to be a pretty average player and pretty solid postflop.

My question: is there any point in raising this flop? Does anybody go ahead and fold on the flop? Seems like a standard fold on the turn, but do I have to call on the flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($95)
BB ($107.75)
UTG ($176.15)
Hero ($121.15)
CO ($28.70)
Button ($57.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, SB calls $4.50, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $12, BB folds, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $26, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $66

orange · #2 01-08-2007, 07:43 PM

dont raise flop vs. tag. folding this flop is much too weak though. i dont really mind turn, though sometimes i peel one and fold river.

LuckyDevil · #3 01-08-2007, 07:46 PM

I call again.

MasterLJ · #4 01-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Yeah, I definitely call again. Not sure what you are afraid of here.

I call again on a blank river too. I might even raise if it's a 2,6 or A... definitely an A.

Biosludge · #5 01-08-2007, 07:49 PM

Whats the rationale behind calling this turn bet? What is in his range that he bets flop and turn with OOP that we are beating?

MasterLJ · #6 01-08-2007, 07:53 PM

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Whats the rationale behind calling this turn bet? What is in his range that he bets flop and turn with OOP that we are beating?

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55,66,77,88,99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, A5, A9, JT, Any Two Diamonds, Any Two Diamonds with a 5 or a 9.

I stopped trying to guess my opponent's holdings in this situation since the *reasonable* range of betting hands is huge, in conjunction with stupid crap people donk it up with, and just call.

LuckyDevil · #7 01-08-2007, 07:54 PM

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Whats the rationale behind calling this turn bet? What is in his range that he bets flop and turn with OOP that we are beating?

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Tons of stuff. Over pairs like KK - 99 (some less likely then others obviously). So many draws i can't even list them all. Also i think his turn bet is weakish. If he had a set or top 2 he would be betting more to protect his hand on this scary of a board and if he had the made straight i don't think he leads out on flop, i think he check/raises or check/calls.

Abramovic · #8 01-08-2007, 08:00 PM

No one likes raising flop to price out draw?

Praetor · #9 01-08-2007, 08:01 PM

id prob shove turn

LuckyDevil · #10 01-08-2007, 08:03 PM

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Isn't he pricing himself out when he bets? Raising flop puts us in a very tough position if he doesn't fold, or worse pushes. Although, i could see pushing the turn after the safe card came.