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Old 02-06-2006, 07:54 PM
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Default Drop or wait for the turn?

sb is 46/10/1.3,
button is 50/4.5/1

Hero has KJ no heart in BB

Button open limps, SB completes, Hero checks
<font color="blue"> Should I raise this? </font>

Flop - A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls

turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero raises, Button folds

river 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB bets, <font color="red"> Hero folds </font>

Hero is getting ~7:1 on this call

<font color="blue"> This has really gotta be a stone cold bluff for Hero to win right? Does it happen this often?</font>

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Old 02-06-2006, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I'd raise the flop and if SB shows any more aggression I'd be outa there.

I would also raise PF
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I'd prolly raise PF and bet the flop. Postflop looks good.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I check preflop. I get lost on monotone flops, but I just fold the flop.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I like your ability to call the turn intending to call down but switching gears and dropping when he bets that specific card.

its better than I usually do.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:27 PM
Esquilax Esquilax is offline
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

You have mid pair w/ no heart on a monotone board, the bettor could have an ace, a made flush, a heart or could be completely bluffing, on an uncraised pot and w/ a player yet to act I'd fold easily fold this flop
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I just fold the flop to SB's bet. There is only 3 small bets in the pot, you may already be behind, and not many cards are going to look good to you. Better opportunities await.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

Folding the flop is weak.
I prefer to raise the flop. Your play is somewhat more risky but not bad.
I personally call the river as well b/c I'm a calling station and i wouldnt be surprised to see J8, Jx, Khx, KQ, 8hx etc often enough.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

[ QUOTE ]
sb is 46/10/1.3,
button is 50/4.5/1

Hero has KJ no heart in BB

Button open limps, SB completes, Hero checks
<font color="blue"> Should I raise this? </font>

Flop - A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls

turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero raises, Button folds

river 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB bets, <font color="red"> Hero folds </font>

Hero is getting ~7:1 on this call

<font color="blue"> This has really gotta be a stone cold bluff for Hero to win right? Does it happen this often?</font>

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[/ QUOTE ]

I woudlnt raise it PF, I hate KJo OOP.
Id probably c/f this on the flop, but Im weak.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Drop or wait for the turn?

I'd raise preflop. Given how you played it I think folding the flop is fine.
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