1/2 - Flopped FH, never raised

Tater10 · #1 02-06-2006, 07:48 PM

Clearing the $600 bonus 4 tabling $1/$2 eurobet 10 minutes into this table. No obvious reads, they seem like avg. 1/2 plrs.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero...

Thought if I bet the turn, the BB would raise, knocking out the CO.

CR the river? Or risk checking around (and BB having AA/AQ)?

Are there extra bets to be won/lost?

sarsen · #2 02-06-2006, 07:54 PM

Ugh! don't kill kittens. This is way too passive. c/r the turn, bet the river. The Ace most likely hit someone, so you can raise the turn. Heck, no one's really showing much aggression, you could even donk bet the turn although I like a c/r better.

Goodnews · #3 02-06-2006, 07:57 PM

bet the flop.

Hattifnatt · #4 02-06-2006, 07:59 PM

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bet the flop.

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and when you decided to dont do that, definitely check-raise when it comes back to you.

ginozola · #5 02-06-2006, 08:11 PM

I'm still new to the game of poker but I'm struggling to make any sense of this play. I accept the check on the fold (personally I'd bet out) but then I'd definitely check-raise when it came back. Again on the turn I'd imagine the Ace interests at least one or two so again I'd expect at least a bet/raise. On the river I'd again lead with a bet, hoping for a raise against two pair (Ace & Jacks) which I'd then reraise and take it from there. Am I a complete n00b oblivious to a complex play or does any of what I just wrote make any sense?

shant · #6 02-06-2006, 08:19 PM

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I'm still new to the game of poker but I'm struggling to make any sense of this play. I accept the check on the fold (personally I'd bet out) but then I'd definitely check-raise when it came back. Again on the turn I'd imagine the Ace interests at least one or two so again I'd expect at least a bet/raise. On the river I'd again lead with a bet, hoping for a raise against two pair (Ace & Jacks) which I'd then reraise and take it from there. Am I a complete n00b oblivious to a complex play or does any of what I just wrote make any sense?

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You have better ideas on how to play the hand than the guy who played it

sarsen · #7 02-06-2006, 08:20 PM

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I'm still new to the game of poker but I'm struggling to make any sense of this play. I accept the check on the fold (personally I'd bet out) but then I'd definitely check-raise when it came back. Again on the turn I'd imagine the Ace interests at least one or two so again I'd expect at least a bet/raise. On the river I'd again lead with a bet, hoping for a raise against two pair (Ace & Jacks) which I'd then reraise and take it from there. Am I a complete n00b oblivious to a complex play or does any of what I just wrote make any sense?

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Nope, c/r might be too strong on the flop, but then again maybe not. Donk bet on the flop might be too strong too, but I like that line better than a c/r. The way it was played a c/r on the turn or a donk bet would both work. I think a c/r may get more value, but w/o reads its hard to say. This hand really plays itself as you deduced. nh.

Gregatron · #8 02-06-2006, 08:45 PM

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As soon as I saw this hand I had to take a chainsaw to ole Nero. This was Nero.

I can't show Nero afterwards, as the lens on my camera won't go out that far (he was all over my apartment). I can show you the chainsaw though:

jhm · #9 02-06-2006, 08:46 PM

I don't mind the flop check so much, but by the turn I'm betting. I'd lead and hope someone would raise then 3-bet. C/R would make me nervous that I'd miss a whole round of betting, which almost happened.

sarsen · #10 02-06-2006, 08:49 PM

Greg,

Don't make me cry.......poor Nero.....