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Old 01-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Triggerle Triggerle is offline
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Default NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

I have Villian at 18/11/4.5 over several hundred hands. I know he has thousands on me because he told me some other time. I'm 17/14/3.5 and I think he respects me as a good TAG player.

My question here is if and how I could have played this differently. Should I have pushed on the river as the board paired? Pushed turn? My reasoning for the turn call was that since he showed so much strength and is generally aggressive I might as well let him bet again on the river.

I was a bit nervous, though, as I only had one pair.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $41.25
UTG+1: $41.15
Hero: $49.25
Button: $46.75
SB: $75.70
BB: $56.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $9</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($46.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $14.5</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $75.5
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Low_Card2 Low_Card2 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

i get it all in on the turn, but i guess it depends on how loose he is.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:13 PM
LordTacohead LordTacohead is offline
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

What does the flop checkraise generally signify from a solid TAG? He probably wouldn't try to strong-arm you out of the pot with 77/66, so are we often looking at an AJs-type hand?
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

You were behhind postflop, what are you beating where a nit check raises you like that post flop?
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:22 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

well he shouldn't have 89s or 45s, so IMO we're looking at a minimum of TJs (but I don't like his flop play with that hand), but most likely 77/66/AJs, maybe even JJ. tell me how weak this is
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:24 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

to take an opposite angle from my post above,

we are CO and raised preflop and c-bet, couldn't he be putting a move on us or even think he has the best hand with like 55/88? he doesn't know we have KK.

I agree after the turn and river action those hands get less likely, but it seems like he should have some range on the flop
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

This line could mean a bunch of different things from a good, aggressive player. Is the flop raise a semibluff draw, a worse made hand, a better made hand, or a bluff? All of those are possible. Are the turn and river bets for blocking, value, or value representing blocking? All these things are possible.

In short, a read beyond PAHud is critical to playing this hand correctly. You might see me play this hand 10 different ways depending on those reads.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:50 PM
Triggerle Triggerle is offline
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

OK, an addendum to my reads. This is a bit flimsy, though, as a couple hundred hands is not enough to make the following a solid read (he could just be running well).

Villian is tight pre-flop but definitely not a nit post-flop. In fact he wins many hands by fearlessly putting in big bets on all streets.
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

nice river card for you there
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6max - KK against good and aggressive player

I'm thinking he has AJ
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