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Old 01-06-2007, 05:19 PM
Snygaard Snygaard is offline
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Default Is he bluffing me?

Villian is unknown, he has only been at the table an orbit or 2. He has won a small random pot.

Thoughts on all streets please. Especially river.

Table Jackpot #1304203 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: HERO ( $1127.40 )
Seat 1: Villian ( $834.65 )
Seat 5: mrNyblom ( $1223.64 )
Seat 2: Red_BR ( $271.90 )
Seat 6: Dennicepoker ( $163.50 )
Dennicepoker posts small blind [$3].
Illuminee posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac Jc ]
Red_BR calls [$6]
HERO raises [$32]
mrNyblom folds
Dennicepoker folds
Illuminee calls [$26]
Red_BR folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Qd, 2h ]
Illuminee checks
HERO bets [$55]
Illuminee calls [$55]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
Illuminee checks
HERO bets [$100]
Illuminee calls [$100]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
Illuminee bets [$380]
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:23 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

check either flop or turn. unlikely you're gonna get paid by a worse hand on all 3 streets here.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

chekc turnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:41 PM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

Turn bet seems incredibly standard to me. No way would I fold river, ever, it's way too weird a line for a hand that beats you for me to give villain credit.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:46 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

check turn, and its not close. fold river as played.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:52 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

Check flop or turn. No way your getting 3 streets of value here like ever.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Snygaard Snygaard is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

You guys seem to agree that betting the turn is awful. The fact that the flush draw is out there doesnt make it closer? I figured some Ax hands would call me as well. BTW I probably have a crazy LAG image as usual, but like I said villian haven't been at the table for very long. I dont know if I've played with him before.
I almost checked turn. What about the river?
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:38 PM
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I would fold here (with such a big river bet), all the times i call this crap these people show up with ridiciouls hands that beat me in exactly situations like that, and i called a lot of those hands lately but mostly i donŽt blow the pot like that so the decison about calling is not so hard to make. Think from it the other way, if he actually bluffed his flush draw in this spot, youŽll get his stack sooner than later anyways.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

I really dont think betting turn is bad at all. Its not a great spot for it but certainly not bad.
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:05 PM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Re: Is he bluffing me?

The flush draw should not be of major concern here. As others have said it's unlikely you're going to be able to bet all three streets for value against a worse hand. If he was really bad and you figured you can bet strong on every street and get called then by all means do it, but if you were planning on betting the turn and checking the river you're better off checking the turn on this board. You'll get more value from things like KQ, and a decent amount of the time an unknown is peeling this flop with a gutshot or something ridiculous and then fires the river if you check the turn.

As played, this is definitely a fold IMO. Very very rarely will people check call two streets with a draw and then lead huge when they miss. Most will just c/f this river with a busted draw. Looks more like Qx or something that wants to look like a bluff. IMO calling is very bad vs an unknown.
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