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Old 01-04-2007, 11:27 PM
teampursuit teampursuit is offline
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Default Nut flush draw faces aggression

First hand post here...I'm curious what you think. Preflop raise ok? Should I raise the turn here? Was 3-betting the flop ok?

I'd just sat down so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.4SB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.2BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9.2BB, 2 players)
BB checks, hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 9.2BB
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

Dont raise pre-flop.
Dont bet or raise on the flop.
Call on the turn - fine.
River - perfect!

Edit: The converter did something wrong. Betting is ok on the flop with 6 (?) players, not with 3.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

unterfish,

http://twoplustwo.com/books.html#Small%20Stakes%20Hold'em

might be helpful for you.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

Lol. Thanks. Havent heard about it yet. Is that new?
Since I usually play 1k/2k I dont know if its of interest for me.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

hi unterfish,

i just thought, given your advice in this thread, you might want to re-think your understanding of equity.

i'll ask some questions here, though, to get the ball rolling.

how many outs does hero have?

what are the odds of making that draw?

what is the pot offering a bet? (aka immediate odds).

what do you think the implied odds are here?

what kind of range do you give bb?

how does hero's equity relate vis a vis bb's range?

helpfully,

john
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

[ QUOTE ]
helpfully,

john

[/ QUOTE ]


ZOMG!!!!1!!!!!11111!

It's like looking in a mirror.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

Ok. Shadow... Without reading your digest Im gonna think about it because you try so hard...
Well, the problem is: you dont give solutions. You give questions.
But since you put it friendly, Ill try again.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

unterfish,

if i rattled off the answers to this hand or any hand posted here, how much would you learn?

boz,

holla!

holla.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:06 AM
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[ QUOTE ]

how does hero's equity relate vis a vis bb's range?

helpfully,

john

[/ QUOTE ]

Well. Yeah. I answered in my mind all the questions you gave me except this question.
Help me out!
And this time give a statement, not a question!
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:09 AM
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in your mind doesn't count.

post!

don't be afraid to be wrong.
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