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Old 01-04-2007, 02:11 PM
Dr_Mabuse101 Dr_Mabuse101 is offline
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Default NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

Villain has 34/8/0,8 over 40 Hands.
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $12
Hero: $24.40
CO: $12.25
Button: $23.95
SB: $12.70
BB: $15

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.1, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $5.5</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $5.5</font>. Hero ?
The minraise on the flop looks like Set or Flushdraw to me. Maybe two pair. So how would you handle this situation ?
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

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Old 01-04-2007, 03:17 PM
Esmerelda Esmerelda is offline
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

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I agree with your reads, AK and straight/combo draws are possible too.

Given his stack size he is call your c/r ai no matter what and you are well ahead of his range.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

Agreed. I would push it all in the middle.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:55 PM
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:01 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

I bet he has a set of 8s. His AF scares the [censored] out of me. Normally I'd be all for the all in, but man, 0.8 minraising the flop - yikes.

Its kind of a [censored] flop to minraise bluff too. I think your ahead of KJ here and behind a set of 88s and Jacks...

I doubt its possible for him to have AJ even....Confused at why he'd bet that amount with a draw. Confused at why he'd even bet a draw.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

i don't mind getting all in because there are so many two pair combinations here (KJ, J8, etc). his bet size on the turn shows his confidence in the hand is possibly waning.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:53 PM
allaboutmyfetti allaboutmyfetti is offline
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

Is checking the turn better than donking? Donking seems to kind of give away the strength of our hand, but the board is pretty drawy ...

btw, all you europeans that use a , instead of a . (villian's AF) ... you guys freak me out.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

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his bet size on the turn shows his confidence in the hand is possibly waning.

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How so?

On the flop, the villain showed a propensity for raising the minimum, why does a small bet on the turn necessarily mean his confidence is waning?
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: NL 25: AK - Shove Turn ?

because it's pretty small. maybe he's scared of the possible straight on the turn now. i'm not ignoring the possibility of a set here, but this just smells like two pair. it seems he want to protect his hand on the turn but doesn't want to bet too much to protect it because he realizes he doesn't have the nuts or the ace. i think his bet would be a little larger with a set than with two pair, given that he probably doesnt have top two.

since he didn't take the free card on the turn, i don't put him on a flush draw.
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