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#1
01-04-2007, 02:33 AM
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gutshot on flop -- worth it?
a pretty common situation i think. (i find that when i've got a hand to post, sometimes i can answer it by the time i get to posting but i can be way off so thanks for any/all input and advice)
effective stacks ~100bb Party Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks. Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 3 players) SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.5, SB calls, Hero ? 
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#4
01-04-2007, 07:36 AM
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Re: gutshot on flop -- worth it?
You need to know the stack sizes otherwise you can't consider implied odds. Then, if the stacks are big enough, it depends on how likely you think he is to pay off when the K hits. You might well find the action shuts down and he won't pay off.
But in general I'd say it's not worth it. 4 outs, odds are c.11:1. You'd need to be pretty sure he'd pay off.
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#5
01-04-2007, 07:38 AM
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Re: gutshot on flop -- worth it?
likely that a K wont pay off.
Fold that.
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#6
01-04-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: gutshot on flop -- worth it?
You have an open-ended straight draw, not a gutshot.
A king will probably not get paid much, but an 8 might well. Easy call for me. In fact I think I would have bet out about $0.5 myself here.
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01-04-2007, 09:32 AM
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Re: gutshot on flop -- worth it?
I'll call this with an OESD to the nuts and possible and better 8 for str8 vs potential broadway 2pair but I'm going for a medium sized pot if that makes sense. Likely to be chopping/could be vs higher made str8 if we hit our 8 e.t.c.
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01-04-2007, 10:31 AM
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Re: gutshot on flop -- worth it?
you have a draw to a 4 to the straight broadway, calling here is wasting chips....yeh you can hit the 8 but there will be many redraws if you arent already into RIO territory.....your opponents probably have tons more outs, and their outs are safer....and your top out the K will probably split the pot and pairing probably gives them the straight(plus your already behind most likely)
this is all readless babble though so its really a moot point.
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