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Interesting 215 hand from a top player
I was watching a very well respected poster from the 215s (not curtains btw, just to get that out of the way) and witnessed the following hand. Anybody care to comment? Is this hand as oddly played as appeared at first glance to me, or is there more to it?
Again, this is from a well respected poster and winning player on the 215s. Blinds 10-15 UTG (t1020) UTG+1 (t860) MP1 (t1045) MP2 (t960) HERO (t970) CO (t970) Button (t2015) SB (t1345) BB (t815) Pre-flop: HERO is MP3 with AcQs 4 folds, HERO raises to t50, CO folds, Button calls t50, SB folds, BB calls t35 Flop (t160) [ Tc, Th, 9s ] BB checks, HERO bets t85, Button calls t85, BB folds Turn (t330) [ Qh ] HERO bets t100, Button raises raises to t375, HERO calls t275 River (t1080) [ 7h ] [i]HERO bets t460 (All-in) |
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
The river is absolutely horrible.
The only worse hands that I can see raising the turn is a backdoor heart draw on a semibluff, or MAYBE QJ/JJ. But... hearts got there on the river! So we beat like one hand, out of a large range of things that crush us. However QJ and JJ may think that their hands are good enough to take a free showdown. IF I decided to call the turn raise, I would check-fold the river. |
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
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I was watching a very well respected poster from the 215s (not curtains btw, just to get that out of the way) and witnessed the following hand. Anybody care to comment? Is this hand as oddly played as appeared at first glance to me, or is there more to it? Again, this is from a well respected poster and winning player on the 215s. Blinds 10-15 UTG (t1020) UTG+1 (t860) MP1 (t1045) MP2 (t960) HERO (t970) CO (t970) Button (t2015) SB (t1345) BB (t815) Pre-flop: HERO is MP3 with AcQs 4 folds, HERO raises to t50, CO folds, Button calls t50, SB folds, BB calls t35 Flop (t160) [ Tc, Th, 9s ] BB checks, HERO bets t85, Button calls t85, BB folds Turn (t330) [ Qh ] HERO bets t100, Button raises raises to t375, HERO calls t275 River (t1080) [ 7h ] HERO bets t460 (All-in) [/ QUOTE ] I saw the results and thought he was crazy. Now that you edited them away it makes more sense to me. The problem with this hand is the flop call by the villain. Putting him on a range after that should be pretty easy and hero is only ahead coming out of the flop action 1/3 of the time if he's really lucky. Likely ranges: Overpair = behind Some kind of T (AT, KTs, JTs/o) = behind underpair or str8 draw = ahead unless its 99 So putting together some likely range should've put him into check fold mode IMO. The river he's representing the flush which is about the only option he has left after the turn which is horrible IMO. |
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
His cont bet on the flop is also really not good, IMHO.
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
Hero bets the flop as the raiser no problem there. After the opponent raises the turn he's got to peg him for a ten who was slow playing and is now scared of the flush. So he represents the flush on the river? The big problem here is the amount of chips he has left. His opponent has to call for value even if he thinks he's up against a flush.
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
45s, will you please place the results (in white if you don't want others to see)?
Thank you |
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
In my simple way of thinking, Button has a ten. Hero is trying to get him to fold it by representing a fast-played flush or full house. It's bold, and the opponents I play against are never folding trips there, but it could be a read-based play.
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
Maybe on the turn he knew he was against an aggressive player, and decided to look weak to induce a bluff. If that's the case fine, but I can't understand the river bet.
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Re: Interesting 215 hand from a top player
After Hero calls the turn raise, he isn't picking off a bluff here very often. If he wants to maximize this hand, he should bet the river, assuming that his opponent might put him on a bluff since the 3-flush hit. No one plays trip Ts this way, so I think this river bet gets calls from worse hands a lot, while the board is scary enough that worse hands rarely bluff.
This type of play comes up all the time in LHE against thinking opponents. |
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