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Old 01-03-2007, 07:25 PM
cardsport cardsport is offline
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Default easy JJ for you?

Edit: Reads/Stats on Villain: 70/20/2 over 30 Hands, thats it.

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Blinds: $0.10./$0.25.
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Pre-flop: (6 players) CardSportNL is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.85</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">CardSportNL raises to $2.65</font>, Button calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CardSportNL bets $3.5</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CardSportNL bets $7.5</font>, Button calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.4, 2 players)
CardSportNL checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $13</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CardSportNL calls all-in $11.35</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.65 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $50.1
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

Check the turn. On the river I can't really see calling because the only thing you beat is a busted FD that doesn't contain a Q.
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

You might be way ahead of my thinking, but for me the Turn bet is complete standard and on river its like 25% to call. As played i think i had to call the river!?

Should i check the Turn?

As played, fold or call the River?
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:41 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

check the flop... no reason to bet... he won't have a FD very often, and he folds almost every single thing that you beat
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

Okay so you check the flop.

Do you call a flop bet?
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

But what hand is he calling you with that will call another bet on the turn that you beat?
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

Iīm new here and plain bad. I respect your thoughts but i donīt ever check here...I want to take it down now and cant hope to improve!
I think the Flop is complete standard...

Thanks for any insights
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

I think you should make the flop bet a bit bigger, but I guess it's fine. I feel the same about the turn bet although I'm not sure if another bet or a check is in order here. Your clearly beaten by the river here, he has call decent sized bets on both flop and turn, his not pushing anything you beat here in my opinion. I say fold river even if you got good odds.
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: easy JJ for you?

[ QUOTE ]
Iīm new here and plain bad. I respect your thoughts but i donīt ever check here...I want to take it down now and cant hope to improve!
I think the Flop is complete standard...

Thanks for any insights

[/ QUOTE ]

if you take it down now, you had the best hand

you want to get value out of hands like TT and 99

if you check and villain bets you have to play carefully and try and figure out whether he's got the Q (AQ) or not...

if you bet... what hands can villain call w/ that you beat? (keep in mind that he called a pfrr)
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:01 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Iīm new here and plain bad. I respect your thoughts but i donīt ever check here...I want to take it down now and cant hope to improve!
I think the Flop is complete standard...


[/ QUOTE ]

Ask yourself why you're betting the flop(and turn); It'll help your game to think about these things. Would checking allow you to extract more value if villain has a hand you beat? Maybe pick up a bluff bet from an aggro villain?

As played, your reasoning behind the flop bet is OK, but once called you should be basically done with the hand.
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