Folding AA?

hippitro · #1 01-03-2007, 02:09 PM

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MP3 ($22.63)
LP ($57.52)
CO ($9.38)
Button ($13.78)
SB ($9.54)
BB ($45.9)
EP ($23.75)
MP1 ($20.62)
Hero ($35.41)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises $1, 7 folds, BB calls $0.75,

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.12)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises $2.25, BB calls $2,

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6.62)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.5, BB calls $4.5,

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($15.62)
BB bets $21.16, Hero ????  

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ontiltsoon · #2 01-03-2007, 02:17 PM

Any reads on villain?

jonyy6788 · #3 01-03-2007, 02:20 PM

Check the turn hoping to hit the nut flush. I haven't played FR in a while, but I assume that would be standard.

hippitro · #4 01-03-2007, 02:20 PM

No reads

Knight Vision · #5 01-03-2007, 02:26 PM

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Check the turn hoping to hit the nut flush. I haven't played FR in a while, but I assume that would be standard.

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Is your advice the same if turn did not complete the straight draw? Say a Qc or something? Because I generally keep betting with the AA and NF draw.

trontron · #6 01-03-2007, 02:26 PM

without any reads you have to fold imho. you can't beat anything unless he's bluffing (or playing something like KK very very strangely). i'd also check the turn i think.

jonyy6788 · #7 01-03-2007, 02:26 PM

As far as the river goes I have to fold this...you have top 2 pair, but there's a paired board, a flush, and a 4/9 has a straight.

jonyy6788 · #8 01-03-2007, 02:29 PM

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Check the turn hoping to hit the nut flush. I haven't played FR in a while, but I assume that would be standard.

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Is your advice the same if turn did not complete the straight draw? Say a Qc or something? Because I generally keep betting with the AA and NF draw.

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I want pot control...the most likely straight draw really didn't get there (it's more like they call with a 6) unless they have like 89s or something. I assume Pacific is still like it used to be, a bunch of degenerates who aren't very good. So yeah, if it's Qc I'm still checking. Probably calling a bet on a blank river. Position/pot control are your friends.

Knight Vision · #9 01-03-2007, 02:43 PM

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Check the turn hoping to hit the nut flush. I haven't played FR in a while, but I assume that would be standard.

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Is your advice the same if turn did not complete the straight draw? Say a Qc or something? Because I generally keep betting with the AA and NF draw.

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I want pot control...the most likely straight draw really didn't get there (it's more like they call with a 6) unless they have like 89s or something. I assume Pacific is still like it used to be, a bunch of degenerates who aren't very good. So yeah, if it's Qc I'm still checking. Probably calling a bet on a blank river. Position/pot control are your friends.

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Thanks. I am finding I get a lot of folds from customers when I don't want them. Betting here could be part of the problem. I generally don't feel I am maximizing my take and places like this is where I need to look for leaks in that regard.

So, not betting here gives me the pot control value and keeps the villain in the hand.