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Old 01-03-2007, 11:21 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

If someone is trying to put you all in, are there ever situations where the right play changes if your stack is higher and changes back if it is higher still? Assume the other player(s) pushing or calling requirements do NOT change.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

Are you talking specifically about situations when your opponent has you covered? Also, are the opponents' stacks not involved in the hand constant? Their stacks drive a lot of decisions (even moreso than yours).
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

I assume it should change only for bubble, otherwise it should not.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

In short, your answer is "yes" regardless.

Take a situation on the bubble of a SNG (50/30/20 payout) with 200/400 blinds. You know the SB is pushing any two cards.

SITUATION 1:
UTG (400) Fold
Button (400) Fold
SB (12200) Pushes
You BB (500) with AA - CALL

SITUATION 2:
UTG (400) Fold
Button (400) Fold
SB (10300) Pushes
You BB (2400) with AA - FOLD

SITUATION 3:
UTG (400) Fold
Button (400) Fold
SB (6350) Pushes
You BB (6350) with AA - CALL

I didn't check numbers, but I'm fairly certain those decisions would be correct.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

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I assume it should change only for bubble, otherwise it should not.

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Not entirely true.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

I would invert situation 1 with 2, I don't see the logic of calling when doubling up will bring me nowhere.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

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I would invert situation 1 with 2, I don't see the logic of calling when doubling up will bring me nowhere.

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If you fold in #1, you're all-in in the Small Blind the next hand.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

blinds are 200/400?!?!

I guess you assume my 500 are in reality 100.
In that case I agee.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

How about the other stack sizes are 2,1000 and 1000. Prizes are $1000 $100 and $10. Blinds are 20/40 and the small stack is all in, in the big blind. You have stack sizes 1, 200 or 900 and are on the button.

Edit: sorry this was ment to be a reply to OP
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Are There Non Linear SNG Calling Situations?

Actually its pretty common to be in a situation where you would call as a small stack or as the chip leader but fold as a medium stack.

UMTerp's example is obviously a bit contrived, but similar situations arise pretty frequently with hands like 10-10 or AK.
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