QQ hand

sl4v3 · #1 01-03-2007, 05:10 AM

SB is not terrible (28/18/1.6) and sometimes tricky.
UTG is unkwown.

I'm interested in a line from the turn onward because I've got no clue.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Results:
Final pot: 4.5BB

stonescar · #2 01-03-2007, 05:56 AM

I bet the turn. The way you played, at least bet the river.
When I see UTG posters I pretty much assume they suck, so I think you're losing a good amount of value here.

context · #3 01-03-2007, 06:08 AM

Bet the turn, why check here? UTG limps can mean so many things, including a lot of A's, maybe he hit the 7 and wants to pay you off. SB could be holding a number of hands, that he just called implies it's more of a drawing hand (and he wanted BB to call, along with UTG). Should rule out hands like AK, and mid-PP's.

inferno · #4 01-03-2007, 08:11 AM

bet turn bet river

Bullitos · #5 01-03-2007, 08:19 AM

yup, betting is the way to go.

sl4v3 · #6 01-03-2007, 08:22 AM

If I bet the turn and both players call, how do you play the river?

If I bet the turn and only the decent player calls, how to play the river?

I assume I should fold to any raise?

Also, my reasoning for checking the turn was that the only possible draw just got there. But I know I'm being overly paranoid and realize I have no way of finding out where I'm at if I don't bet.

Bullitos · #7 01-03-2007, 08:30 AM

I would still bet the river if both players call and also if only 1 player calls. It's a great board to valuebet pairs of 4,7,8 and T on. You will run into a pair of K's a decent percentage of the time, but I think this doesn't outweigh the profit you make by valuebetting this hand when they don't have a K.

When you get raised it's time to give up, there's not much you beat anymore at that point.

inferno · #8 01-03-2007, 08:38 AM

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If I bet the turn and both players call, how do you play the river?

If I bet the turn and only the decent player calls, how to play the river?

I assume I should fold to any raise?

Also, my reasoning for checking the turn was that the only possible draw just got there. But I know I'm being overly paranoid and realize I have no way of finding out where I'm at if I don't bet.

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you dont fold it, if you bet and everybody calls you bet again and go to valuetown, if they raise or c/r you dont bet again you just call their bets. really easy stuffff

mvoss · #9 01-03-2007, 08:53 AM

I keep betting for value until I meet resistance.

justkevin · #10 01-03-2007, 10:23 AM

*grunch*

I'd bet/fold the turn. Villain has shown no strength, so assuming he's slow playing is a mistake. This is unlikely card to try a check-raise bluff, so I would fold to a raise.

Since you checked the turn, I definitely bet the river for value. UTG will call with any pair here.