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NL25: Missing River Value Bets
I think I am mis-applying the "induce a bluff" concept on the river. Whenever there is a 2-flush on the flop and someone calls my flop and turn bets, I automatically assume they are on a flush draw, and when I'm OOP I'll check the river to induce a bluff when the flush doesn't hit. But more often than not villain checks behind with a 2nd best made hand, as in this hand:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> SB ($45.55) BB ($31.30) UTG ($25.65) UTG+1 ($24.75) MP1 ($59.90) MP2 ($35.35) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.95)</font> CO ($24.75) <font color="#C00000">Button ($14.40)</font> Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: ($1.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, Button calls $1, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds. Turn: ($3.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, Button calls $1.75. River: ($6.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. Final Pot: $6.75 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Kh Qc (two pair, queens and sixes). Button has Jh Td (two pair, tens and sixes). Outcome: Hero wins $6.75. </font> What is a good read for when to induce a bluff? Thanks. |
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Re: NL25: Missing River Value Bets
I believe at NL25 it's important to bet out for value because your opponents at this level most likely won't be thinking along the same lines you are.
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Re: NL25: Missing River Value Bets
Try and induce a bluff when you think he has something he won't lay down or has missed a draw. You must have something strong though.
An example would be if you flop a middle set on a safe board with 1 high card and it appears he has TPTK and is the kind of player that won't let go. Here you just want to value bet. |
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Re: NL25: Missing River Value Bets
I'm new to this game, but I would have guess that this would be a great spot to check/call...
there are many possible hands that the oppoenent can have...if he has a worse Q or a T, we lose out on a value bet..(although some random villains will put and bet in if checked to here with a worse Q and maybe even once in a while with a T).. if he has a 6 (unlikely, but possible IMO), we might save a little money.. there are many flush draws and straight draws out there that have all missed... again, I'm new to $25NL 6max, but I really think that a check to induce a bluff is the best play here..althought he had a hand that it wasn't bet for..on average, I think it is most profitable |
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Re: NL25: Missing River Value Bets
Either check the turn or bet bigger, when he calls the half-pot bet u still don't really know if he has a made hand or a draw. If the turn goes check/check you can value bet the river b/c he won't give u credit for a hand. As played, i like a check/call
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Re: NL25: Missing River Value Bets
I prefer a raise w/KQ from MP3..At FR limping may be fine tho..As played either check turn or bet closer to the size of the pot..As played I like checking the river..I can not see getting 3 streets of value out of TP2K w/o a good read on villain..
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