AQo vs. cut off raiser

jackdaniels · #1 01-02-2007, 07:39 PM

Villain is new to the table (FWIW 22 hands of 44/12/2.5) and I have just won the last hand uncontested (UTG raise). I have been raising a lot of hands before and my image is a bit laggy...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Can anyone find a fold here? Does anyone bet this river for value (WA/WB)?

Gipper · #2 01-02-2007, 07:59 PM

I think I play it exactly the same. I'm only really worried about AA, AK and JJ. I don't think I can fold this.

JJH3984 · #3 01-02-2007, 08:01 PM

i'm raising somewhere in here. I'll probably checkraise the flop and calldown from a threebet.

Niediam · #4 01-02-2007, 08:06 PM

Folding at any point as played would be terrible.

With no reads I probably raise the turn. If I thought villian has to have a big hand to cap preflop I play the same except bet/fold river.

mrcunningham · #5 01-02-2007, 08:10 PM

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i'm raising somewhere in here. I'll probably checkraise the flop and calldown from a threebet.

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I agree,

jackdaniels · #6 01-02-2007, 08:48 PM

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i'm raising somewhere in here. I'll probably checkraise the flop and calldown from a threebet.

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I agree,

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What worse hand caps pre-flop AND pays off a c/r on the flop, bet on turn and bet on river UI? If we are best now, I think we get the most money playing WA/WB. If we are beat, we lose the least.

I agree with the guy that said that folding here, against un unknown, is terrible. So should we bet/fold the river UI or c/c? I was considering a bet/fold line because I had the Ace of hearts and he is unlikely to raise, even with a set of JJ with me calling the whole way and the biggest draw getting there.

JJH3984 · #7 01-02-2007, 09:01 PM

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i'm raising somewhere in here. I'll probably checkraise the flop and calldown from a threebet.

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I agree,

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What worse hand caps pre-flop AND pays off a c/r on the flop, bet on turn and bet on river UI? If we are best now, I think we get the most money playing WA/WB. If we are beat, we lose the least.

I agree with the guy that said that folding here, against un unknown, is terrible. So should we bet/fold the river UI or c/c? I was considering a bet/fold line because I had the Ace of hearts and he is unlikely to raise, even with a set of JJ with me calling the whole way and the biggest draw getting there.

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If the raise came from MP, i'd agree, but this is a blind stealing situation. CO capping range, without a read, is much larger than his normal capping range.

Grease · #8 01-02-2007, 09:42 PM

I believe this is WA/WB, and I bet/fold the river. The rest of the hand is perfect, though.

Grease · #9 01-02-2007, 09:45 PM

Oh, one more thing.

I always hate to bet/fold the river when using WA/WB because it is so prevalent, and many opponents might know that you are folding to a raise, so I'm sometimes hesitant to use the (river) line against an unknown.

That said, I would still bet/fold, but I would think twice about it before doing it.

James. · #10 01-02-2007, 11:49 PM

nh. maybe donk river, but okay nonetheless.