Need help.

DaCooler · #1 01-02-2007, 05:00 PM

Is this preflop call spew?
Since i did call should i raise the flop to see if KK is a possibility or jump dump it after missing...

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $257.30
CO: $340.45
Hero: $239.65
SB: $81
BB: $250

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $6, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB raises to $22, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($57, 2 players)
BB bets $8.
Uncalled bets: $8 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $57

Claunchy · #2 01-02-2007, 05:03 PM

Fold preflop. You're not getting the odds to call for set value, and setting up a float/bluff probably isn't a great idea here.

I know that's a terrible flop for you, but I don't think I would fold. That looks a lot more like a PP seeing if you have an A than AK/AQ value-betting. I'd probably call and if he makes a similarly-sized turn bet I'd consider raising.

Sciolist · #3 01-02-2007, 05:04 PM

It's $16 more to you, there's $35 in the pot, so you need to average ~$80 when you hit the set. I think that's reasonable given stack sizes, so a call is OK. The main problem is that it's pretty clear you have a small pair if anyone's paying attention, so if the board comes AT6, you may not get much action from AK, so it kind of depends on the BB, but I'm OK with this.

I didn't see the size of the flop bet. Heh. I'm ok with a call and see what he does on the turn: If he has KK, he isn't likely to bet it again, he isn't likely to outdraw you, and you can take the pot from him then.

DaCooler · #4 01-02-2007, 05:12 PM

I called the flop bet, then he bet 12 on the turn??

Sciolist · #5 01-02-2007, 05:14 PM

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I called the flop bet, then he bet 12 on the turn??

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I imagine he flopped a set, but in any case, there's nothing you beat now - I'd fold.

bema03 · #6 01-02-2007, 05:29 PM

I think calling the initial $6 raise was good because of potential set value and implied odds of other callers. Once BB reraised to $22 and you're the only one left, I don't think it's worth it.

On the flop, I think I would raise to see if his extremely small bet is a probe or a trap attempt.

Seeing as you just called, you didn't say what the turn card was but I'm assuming it didn't change much. I'm not sure what to do here, to be honest. I smell a set of 10s here for some reason.