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#1
01-02-2007, 04:21 PM
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QQ facing river raise
Both villains are loose/passive with VP$IP>60% and rarely raise pre- or post flop. They have consistently been calling down to river whenever they got one small piece of the flop, any pocket pair or a lone pocket A. I haven't caught anyone trying to bluff.
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.25/$0.5 10 players Converter Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds. Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.4SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.2BB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.2BB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero? 
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#2
01-02-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: QQ facing river raise
I fold. The pot is 13bb's and your not seeing less than an ace here in two places often enough to call. If this was the one time in a thousand that someone bluffs and gets overcalled by a hand worse than yours so be it.
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#6
01-02-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: QQ facing river raise
I don't think I'm betting this turn very often and doubt I'm putting any money in on the river. Against these types of villains I like c/c the river because I'd hate to call a raise on an overpaired board with a pp.
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#7
01-02-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: QQ facing river raise
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I don't think I'm betting this turn very often and doubt I'm putting any money in on the river. Against these types of villains I like c/c the river because I'd hate to call a raise on an overpaired board with a pp. [/ QUOTE ] Given OP's read betting every street here is good IMO.
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#8
01-02-2007, 04:44 PM
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Re: QQ facing river raise
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[ QUOTE ] I don't think I'm betting this turn very often and doubt I'm putting any money in on the river. Against these types of villains I like c/c the river because I'd hate to call a raise on an overpaired board with a pp. [/ QUOTE ] Given OP's read betting every street here is good IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Well, if you are going with the read then the river is a b/f. If these guys were taking swings at every pot on every street then it's an easy call, but if I'm remembering the read they aren't getting out of line enough to think they are raising this river with 4th pair.
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#10
01-02-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: QQ facing river raise
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They can't call down with anything if you don't bet. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's the reason I take the direct betting route rather than having checked rounds all the way to the river. On the flop and turn i think that they would have raised me (even tho they're very passive) with a 3d A. ETA: On the other hand, is the pot big enough to call and see?
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