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Old 01-02-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

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FT NL 200, 6-max, 6-handed

Can I push for value? What is Villain's range?

Reads: Villain is brand new, second orbit.

Villain has $204 and Hero covers.

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Folds to Hero, Hero raises to $7, only Villain in BB calls.

Flop: ($15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks, Hero bets $12, Villain raises to $44, Hero calls.

Turn: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain checks, Hero checks.

River: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain leads for $65.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:52 AM
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Sufjan Stevens
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

Push it and watch him call with his QJ or whatever.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

Weird hand. I'm guessing villain has like a average KQ or QJ and wanted to find out where he stood on the flop. I actually think you're not getting much value from anything more than a river minraise.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:57 AM
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Excellent. Google or no google?
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:57 AM
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Weird hand. I'm guessing villain has like a average KQ or QJ and wanted to find out where he stood on the flop. I actually think you're not getting much value from anything more than a river minraise.

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So are you calling or min-raising?
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

What i mean is i'm almost always raising, but that i don't think he calls a push.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

Villain has less than $100 left. His range is heavily weighted toward AQ or KQ. Maybe a scared 33. I'd shove and expect AQ to look me up.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Adlai, Adlai, What Did He Say? And What is the Answer? FT 200

Its pretty tough to get called by worse since you checked turn. Your line is not at all consistent with a bluff, so he's not going to look you up light unless he can't read hands at all. Maybe a with a river push you're repping a 9 or better in his eyes, so I don't see much value in shoving.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:12 PM
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Its pretty tough to get called by worse since you checked turn.

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1) Are you betting the turn?

2) I think the reverse is true here. A turn check shows timidity; doesn't that make AQ more likely to call a river shove than if I had bet the turn? I'm not speaking in regards to stack sizs -- I realize that betting the turn could have gotten us in. But he very well might fold the turn to a 3/4 PSB with a hand like AQ or KQ.
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