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Old 01-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default FR: QQ Line check

Just sat down 3-4 hands ago, no reads.

Thought process:
Turn brings a possible flush, but w/o a spade in my hand I didnt feel like checking behind so I fired a bit more than half pot.

River card makes it almost impossible for me to fold. I'm now ahead of all slowplayed sets, two-pairs or overpairs.

Question:
1) Do you like the turn bet or do you prefer to check behind?
2) Given how the hand was played, if the river is not a queen, do you call a 1/2 pot bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($24.65)
Button ($11.60)
SB ($24.50)
BB ($11.10)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($25.20)
MP1 ($6)
MP2 ($4.30)
MP3 ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($3) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, SB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB calls $4.50.

River: ($16.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, Hero ???

Final Pot: $32.50
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:39 PM
jjb108 jjb108 is offline
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Default Re: FR: QQ Line check

1) I check behind the turn to keep it small so I can call 1/2 pot on the river and because I'm scared of monsters. Yes it risks a 4th spade falling. People will chase a flush to even a PSB. (edit for muddled thoughts and mixed sentences here)

2) FR without the Q hitting, I like to think I fold this.

As usual, reads help swing this one way or another.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:43 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: FR: QQ Line check

obviously you're not folding here, it's either raise or call. I think I just call.

I'd check behind on the turn though, usually he's only going to call with a hand that beats you. JJ/A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T are the only hands he's really calling (readless you have to assume theyre reasonably solid). There isnt much else apart from the flush draw/trips that he's calling with on the flop.
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: FR: QQ Line check

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obviously you're not folding here, it's either raise or call. I think I just call.

I'd check behind on the turn though, usually he's only going to call with a hand that beats you. JJ/A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T are the only hands he's really calling (readless you have to assume theyre reasonably solid). There isnt much else apart from the flush draw/trips that he's calling with on the flop.

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Check behind on turn for me as well, you hate to see a fourth spade fall but I think it's the risk you have to take, a value bet here is way too thin IHMO.
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: FR: QQ Line check

Like everyone else, check behind on the turn, call river.

If the river happened to not be a Q, I'd fold to the half pot bet if opponent made it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default Re: FR: QQ Line check

Thanks guys

Good point on the potential non-flush hands that could contain a big ace
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