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Old 12-30-2006, 09:22 AM
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Default Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

The TV Forum is quite fun but usually lacking in strategy discussions. This is a strategy question geared towards those who play at levels I probably never will reach which is why I post it here. I love lurking here and seeing how High Stakes players think and you can hopefully shed some light on something that's intrigued me.

I was watching replays of GSN's High Stakes Poker when Daniel Negreanu recieved his infamous succession of coolers - flopping big hands, often enough the absolute nuts, and then getting beat on the turn or river. Negreanu seemed to know he was beat however he still made every single crying call.

I was under the impression that one facet of being a great player is the ability to make big laydowns when you are beat. Not to say that every hand he called was obvious but on one of the hands in particular announcer Gabe Kaplan even said that that one was relatively easy, one that Daniel would realize later on.

I remember reading a baseball pitcher say something like, "People think that a pro pitcher can just put the ball wherever he wants on command but it's not like that at all" as a way of pointing out that the pin-point accuracy that some baseball fans might feel is a given is vastly overstated. In the same vein am I putting unrealistic expectations on the High Stakes professionals (on the show and in the Big Game)? Does a pro really need this in their arsenal to be a profitable player or do they view such crying calls as a part of the game? Or do pros really do possess the ability to make big laydowns but what I saw on TV is too small a sample size, one possibly brought on by players not wanting to get bluffed on TV?
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Old 12-30-2006, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

Daniel negreanu kinda sucks at NLH so he's not the best example
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Old 12-30-2006, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

monkey tilt from negreanu yea he knew he was beat.
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

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Daniel negreanu kinda sucks at NLH so he's not the best example

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Yeah, heīs the worst player ever just like an amateur!!
thatīs why heīs rated one of the best players in the world...
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

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Daniel negreanu kinda sucks at NLH so he's not the best example

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lolz
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Big Laydowns at High Stakes Poker (specifically Daniel Negreanu)

I think that making those laydowns is a big part of the game. I obviously don't play high stakes games. they were a lot of big laydowns made, he layed the nut straight to a straight flush. I think that most of his hands that he was calling with weren't calls with tptk. he was alling with huge hand that always seemed to get knotched off.
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:16 PM
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Daniel negreanu kinda sucks at NLH so he's not the best example

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Old 12-30-2006, 01:34 PM
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Daniel negreanu kinda sucks at NLH so he's not the best example

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Yeah, heīs the worst player ever just like an amateur!!
thatīs why heīs rated one of the best players in the world...

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[censored] off to FCP you [censored] fanboy retard
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:42 PM
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Michael Schumacher kinds sucks at racing so he's not the best example... I overtook him on the autobahn the other day.
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