Another overpair

VPIP100 · #1 12-29-2006, 07:04 AM

My overpairs (QQ/KK/AA) are running very bad, win percentage of around 60%, it seems I lose big pots or win the blinds. So here's another one.

Villain is bad, very bad, lost 40BB over 130 hands, I like to play pots with him.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.10
UTG+1: $9.75
MP1: $17.85
MP2: $15.15
Hero: $14.15
CO: $10.80
Button: $9.65
SB: $9.90
BB: $13.10

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (13.4SB, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (14.7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 16.7BB

calidris · #2 12-29-2006, 07:14 AM

PF fine of course. Flop as well. I'd c/c turn and river.

fretelÃ¶o · #3 12-29-2006, 07:20 AM

I'm not entirely sure about the turn c/r, but I guess that was read dependent play? Other than that - nh.

VPIP100 · #4 12-29-2006, 07:23 AM

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I'm not entirely sure about the turn c/r, but I guess that was read dependent play? Other than that - nh.

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Yes it was, he 3-betted light so I was gonna check-raise any turn.

Riku · #5 12-29-2006, 10:13 AM

I hope you also use other methods to determine how good or bad he is, than just how much money he has lost during the latest 100 hands...

I abc 3-bet the flop.

VPIP100 · #6 12-29-2006, 10:18 AM

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I hope you also use other methods to determine how good or bad he is, than just how much money he has lost during the latest 100 hands...

I abc 3-bet the flop.

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He was just playing poorly, calling caps with K4s and such. He was a big loser on another table aswell.

I should have 3-bet the flop, for value, villain showed JJ, [censored] it holla.

Riku · #7 12-29-2006, 10:36 AM

But to call a 3-bet and to 3-bet are not the same thing. Had you seen him go über aggro post flop with marginal holdings ? Trying not to be result oriented, but I would get worried on the turn after the J lands and probably just call down.

CFaug · #8 12-29-2006, 10:40 AM

grunch
i would have 3-bet the flop instead of the turn check raise

Sarge85 · #9 12-29-2006, 10:45 AM

I think your line was just fine.

You only smooth call the flop to set the CR on the turn which you did nicely.

The alternate route is to 3-bet and lead the turn.

Keep mixing both up.

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Befolder · #10 12-29-2006, 11:54 AM

Grunch

3 bet the flop, continue betting turn if just called. If capped by villain on flop, just call down the other two streets.

Turn: J could be a bad card since he might have just hit a set. I don't raise that turn. Villain has show strength throughout this hand.