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Old 12-28-2006, 05:12 PM
DCWildcat DCWildcat is offline
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Default Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

-River sexy
-check/raise flop with no PF raise
-raise for a free showdown
-screwplay
-bluff at small pots on the turn (i.e., in SB, CO limps, you complete, BB checks, flop is dry and checked around, turn is still dry and lead with air)
-raise/fold to a 3bet on the river

whoops, i forgot to put all of that in caps

So am I probably hurting my winrate by not doing these?
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

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-check/raise flop with no PF raise
-screwplay
-bluff at small pots on the turn (i.e., in SB, CO limps, you complete, BB checks, flop is dry and checked around, turn is still dry and lead with air)


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I'm with you on these.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

If almost never doing these hurts your winrate, then I'm hurting mine as well.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

I do all of those but probably not (hurting your WR). Sexies are fun but mostly for psychological purposes when I feel like pwning a Lag and I'm on tilt. The one thing I'd least want to give up is C/R'ing flops in unraised pots, because everyone autobets when checked to HU.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

I think that the correct opportunities to try these plays don't come up all that often in the first place. Then, you have to decide to do them when the conditions are right. So, I think it's correct to almost never do them in general.

The one I find myself in position to do most often (and which I follow through on) is to bluff at small pots on the turn if no one has yet shown interest.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:02 PM
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Sexies are fun but mostly for psychological purposes when I feel like pwning a Lag and I'm on tilt.

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I think this is definitely not true especially is you are regularly playing with the same folks.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:10 PM
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No, it's definitely true that I'm on tilt for the majority of my attempted sexy's [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
That of course doesn't mean the play doesn't have merit.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

In an optimal play style:

You have to sexy to balance your range of river checks
You have to screwplay to balance your range of turn checks

I think bluffing the turn and c/ring unraised pots is good poker too.
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

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whoops, i forgot to put all of that in caps. So am I probably hurting my winrate?

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YES. USING ALL CAPS WHEN TIMELY AND APPROPRIATE IS A LITTLE KNOWN BUT HIGHLY EFFECTIVE TECHNIQUE USED BY EXPERT PLAYERS TO ENHANCE THEIR WINRATE.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Things I almost never do that all yall probably do

sexy and screwplay is important and will definitely help the winrate. it gives stupid TAGs a reason to call down a marginal hand that they often wouldn't have even called a c-bet with. For example:

Villain is 26/16/2 over 100 hands

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.5BB

Villain mucks 98o
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