4.40 180 Wasn't sure what to do

[SteveOB]

Wasn't sure what to do pf thought about shoving, have no image of this guy or idea how he plays.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t3705)
MP1 (t1305)
MP2 (t1600)
CO (t2890)
Hero (t1805)
SB (t1100)
BB (t4580)
UTG (t3160)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t500, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1150) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1305</font>, UTG calls t905.

Turn: (t3760) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3760) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3760

[medaugh]

I shove PF. If villan folds you increased your stack 33%. If he calls and has AA, KK gg you. Otherwise your fliping right where you want to be.

[4CardStraight]

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I shove PF. If villan folds you increased your stack 33%. If he calls and has AA, KK gg you. Otherwise your fliping right where you want to be.

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I agree. An argument can certainly be made to call this with position against some opponents however. If you are fairly sure he will fold a small pocket pair or AK on an unders board if he whiffs and checks to you where you will CBet, then perhaps calling and making a play on all flops might be arguably better.

(like if you know the guy is gonna call you preflp with 44-TT but will fold them if he whiffs) then calling and playing the flop MIGHT be better than just taking the coinflip.

Whatever, against an unknown I think this is a shove preflop.

As played preflop, postflop is totally standard.

[seke2]

Push preflop, postflop is very standard.

[TFGoose]

Push preflop, putting over a quarter of your stack in on a call and then watching the flop miss you sucks when he c-bets. Just push and guarantee that you'll see all five cards, if you don't just pick the pot up right now.

--TFGoose

[mxp2004]

I think I will be in the minority on this one, but I would not be inclined to push preflop. Without knowing how this guy plays, I think we can make some assumptions about his hand range based on an average player's action of raising out this strongly from UTG.

First, if he is a reasonable player who has raised from UTG, he probably has a decent hand. Among the hands that are strong enough to come in from UTG with a raise, it is difficult to identify one which he might be holding that you would dominate. Does a reasonable player make this kind of raise UTG with AQ or AJ? Probably not.

Thus, he probably has a pocket pair, which is a coinflip situation, unless he's holding AA or KK, which would be very bad news.

If a pocket pair is the most likely holding, why not see a flop when you have position? I don't think that a CBet is a certainty. Lots of players play small and middle pairs this way, but hold their fire on the flop when a couple of overcards appear. That gives you the opportunity to take the pot away from him even if you whiff, and it is a play that probably has more fold equity than a preflop push. One of the other posters suggested this approach, and I think it makes sense.

Even if he does CBet on a flop that you miss, I don't think that folding is so bad. Again, if a pocket pair is the most likely holding, then any flop you miss makes you a significant underdog for the final two streets. Folding a big dog is not a bad play. Also, with the blinds at 50/100 and 1300 in your stack, you'd still have 9M left to play with. That's not a great situation, but it's no crisis either.

I can think of instances where I would push AK preflop... e.g, having a stack with less than 10 BBs, facing a raise like this from LP player in an unopened pot, knowing that the raiser is aggressive with marginal hands, etc. But here, I feel like pushing AK against a reasonable UTG raiser with a big stack is overplaying AK preflop. I will acknowledge that a lot of good players do this, but I don't like to risk everything on a probable coinflip before it's necessary.

[SuperUberBob]

Definite preflop shove.

As played preflop, postflop is standard.

[Fiksdal]

Preflop and flop are both increadibly hysterically standard pushes.

[BriPlay]

looks good to me.

[BriPlay]

here here

well said