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Old 12-28-2006, 12:51 AM
Langerz Langerz is offline
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Default TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

Villian is 35/22/2 over only a few hands so nothing specific that the stats don't tell. I'm good on the flop, but once I get 3 bet I'm wondering about my line. He could have a flush draw and is 3 betting to get a free card. He could also have a hand I'm in trouble against. Is calling down from here correct?

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

Why are you C/R this flop? Oh I know to see if your hand is good against this aggressive player. Well, I guess you found out, so now you can fold safely, correct??

Oh wait now your getting 13:1 to hit a possible 5 outer. Now you can't fold can you. See what I'm getting at here. The only thing that C/R does is get a worse hand to fold.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

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Why are you C/R this flop? Oh I know to see if your hand is good against this aggressive player. Well, I guess you found out, so now you can fold safely, correct??

Oh wait now your getting 13:1 to hit a possible 5 outer. Now you can't fold can you. See what I'm getting at here. The only thing that C/R does is get a worse hand to fold.


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villain shows down A2 if u c/r
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:06 AM
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OP: yes u call down

villain will play worse queens like this, worse pairs, sometimes something just totally retarded like AT. he does not have a flush draw all that often and hes just about never taking a free card.

dont make folds in big pots with good hands against undefined hand ranges. poker is easy holla
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

Wasn't asking if I should fold by the way. The turn checked through which made me wonder if I should have led out on turn.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

Well my original question got answered, but now I'm confused about the c/r on the flop which I thought was standard. I'm curious to hear more discussion.

To Carmine: I'm not sure that is true. If he has AK the same argument applies to him he bets and he's getting 12:1 with a possible 6 outer. Also I'm cring more than just TP here so at times his fold is incorrect.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: TPGK HU against pf 3 bettor

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OP: yes u call down

villain will play worse queens like this, worse pairs, sometimes something just totally retarded like AT. he does not have a flush draw all that often and hes just about never taking a free card.

dont make folds in big pots with good hands against undefined hand ranges. poker is easy holla

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I know it's "in" to say Lagtags never take free cards, but instances of 3betting a flop C/R are def. an exception to this rule. I guess it makes them feel like they pwned you or something. A flush draw is more likely than AQ in my experience.
Sometimes I cap the flop and sometimes not but I'm for always leading the turn and calling down here.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:28 AM
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it doesnt matter if u know he will take a free card with a flush draw here bc ur still an underdog on the flop and on a blank turn
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:31 AM
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Underdog if you run like I did today? Yeah, but usually not w/ TP.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:52 AM
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fold? owwwwww

just call down
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