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Old 12-27-2006, 08:30 PM
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Default (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG is raising pf 15% after 26 hands. Not real aggressive after the flop.

UTG (t2905)
Hero (t1660)
MP1 (t3620)
CO (t1320)
Button (t1570)
SB (t820)
BB (t1605)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t150

Flop: (t575) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t350</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t2655 (All-in)</font>

Is this auto call, auto fold or something in between?
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

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Old 12-27-2006, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

Why would you not call?
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

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Why would you not call?

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Well it's early in the game. If I fold I'll still have T1000, enough chips to pushbot effectively once the blinds are bigger. Also why would someone make a reraise like that? I would think most of the time he has a set.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

its $5.5 your opponents are idiots, most of the time you will have them beat. (o.k so they will have sets sometimes, but not very often at all).

So it's an easy call, also bet more on the flop for value.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

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I would think most of the time he has a set.

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I think your being slightly results oriented. Your opponent could be making this reraise with a larger number of hands that you have beat.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

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Why would you not call?

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Well it's early in the game. If I fold I'll still have T1000, enough chips to pushbot effectively once the blinds are bigger. Also why would someone make a reraise like that? I would think most of the time he has a set.

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There is one thing you have to remember:

NEVER, EVER fold Aces in a SNG until a 60$ buyin. NEVER. Its always -EV to do that. Unles 2 guys in front of you got it all in on a rainbow flop. Then i might begin to think about a laydown. But i said i "begin"...


Maybe you can find a fold on a 4 flush/4 straight board against a non-moron.

Don`t be result orientated. I`m sure that you`ve seen this play with any J or middle pair , if you played long enough.
And some people just fall in love with their PP...



"Why would someone make a reraise like that"?

- people are stupid, thats the reason. And don`t forgett, that every cent you win in this game is probably because people do stupid things. Otherwise we`d all loose to the rake (which is almost happening at some higher levels).
I do stupid things, you do and so does probably almost everybody else.
But the frequenzy makes ones to winner and others to donators.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

Yeah maybe. It always seems like they have a set when they do that. And obviously that could be selective memory on my part, combined with a small sample size.

But in this situation I could see making that raise with a KK, QQ or maybe an open straight draw. He didn't reraise PF so he probably doesn't have KK or QQ. So I'm behind trips and ahead on the straight draw.

Or am I just overthinking a $5.50.

Just wanted to make it clear I was responding to Adam.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:48 PM
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Or am I just overthinking a $5.50.

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Thats exactly what you are doing. When i played the 5s i had a hard time, because i thought to much. Even in the 60s you shouldnt think to fancy. By reading this forum i actually began to play more and more "boring" but succesful ABC poker. The reason is simply because most people think 0level. So you are obviously doing a mistake if you think 2nd level instead of first...
I get reminded by that every time, when morons call my bluffs with J high.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: (5.50 Stars) AA v all in on rainbow flop

reraise preflop should be bigger

as to what he can push with that you beat: XX = highly likely and (XX) = possible

KK/QQ (TT/99/88) AJ/KJ/QJ (JT)

I doubt he has a straight draw as theres no reason for him to open raise with connectors. Sure a set is possible but more often than not you double here.
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