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Old 12-26-2006, 07:43 PM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
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Default NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

Villian ran at 23/3/.45. His preflop play made me very weary of AA and usually im just a robot and push kk pf but i wanted to see a flop against this player.
What does villian push with here that I beat with his low agression. (I hit an awful downswing so Im trying to regain confidence so my play here might be not optimal)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($120.45)
UTG ($105.30)
MP ($91.55)
Hero ($187.20)
SB ($100.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $7.

Flop: ($25.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $93.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?????
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

I always call this, and always see AA. I can't disagree with a fold vs a guy w these stats.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

I would personally call, but I'm a noob, so wait for better replies!

One thing I am interested in though is whether or not the limp/reraise would count towards his "3" PFR stat. If not, have you seen him limp/re-raise before. before with anything? How often have you raised his UTG limp in the past? If there has been history, then I would be more inclined to call.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

missed the limp reraise, def fold.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

This is the first time ive seen him limp raise. i havent been abusing him that much for his limping. I havent really tangled with him too much at this table.
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

Honestly this is one of those situations where I'll decide that he has AA, I'll agonize and be stupid about it. I'll talk myself out of it, I'll call and lose and know for a fact I should have folded but I would end up being too stubborn.
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

I always call this and go on tilt after cause I know I should fold here

you may see QQ here, but it's definitely not often enough to call vs. this villain

I fold cause I hate paying off nits when I shouldn't, and it's +nontiltEV for me - I would also guess a call itself is -EV
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

As there aren't any two cards where his line makes sense, I would call assuming his has two jokers or something.

His most likely holding is AA because of the preflop action, but post-flop the shove seems fairly bizarre. So, with QQ and the more combinations of AK that might also be possiblities, I would call.....and lose!
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK facing flop overbet

In fact, AdKd is the best match to his play post-flop and could definately be possible pre-flop. Erm, still filthy, but I'm going to say (for the third time, I realise) that I think a call might be alright.*

* Said with supreme confidence
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:33 PM
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