Need help with o/pair spots, tell me im a fish, thxs

[jimmyhat1000]

To all, I've just started taking a few shots at 2/4 trying to move up from 1/2. These are some of the problem hands i had today. The QQ hand is the main one i need help with. The TT one i simply need to be yelled at for and
once you guys read it im sure you will all buddy list me, although US people can't get me cause ill be tucked away at PP.

No real reads on villian with QQ hand, PAHUD isn't working atm and i've only been at the table for a few orbits. I guess at 200nl id be betting 3/4 pot on the turn and calling shove/shoving river but i need help for how to play this and very importantly why at 400nl. Help much appreciated, thanks alot.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($474.50)
UTG ($575.10)
MP ($337.60)
Hero ($419.50)
Button ($399.20)
SB ($412.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $30.

Flop: ($98) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, UTG calls $65.

Turn: ($228) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($228) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $310</font>, Hero calls $419.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $957.50


This TT i simply need to be shot, He calls a raise then COLD CALLS A 3 BET. I know this screams "i have a small pp, i need to hit a set and want to stack you". Then he min raises flop, lol. I'm sooo bad, please simply berate me like i need to be.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($466.50)
CO ($1009.20)
Button ($374.10)
Hero ($424.50)
BB ($280.30)
UTG ($437.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $44</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $32.

Flop: ($110) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $422.50 (All-In), Button calls $374.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($1131.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($1131.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1131.60

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ts Th (one pair, tens).
Button has 2d 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Button wins $1131.59. </font>

[Jinx]

hand 1 is fine if you folded the river. Calling that AI is attrocious.

hand 2, whatever. I think hand 1 is way worse.

[jimmyhat1000]

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hand 1 is fine if you folded the river. Calling that AI is attrocious.

hand 2, whatever. I think hand 1 is way worse.

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If im folding the river in hand one it's because im giving him credit for JJJ or AA/KK im guessing? Can he not have something like AKhh, AJhh, KQhh etc.( i know i have Qh, im just saying this type of hand), or does he go a bit more nuts on the flop with this type of hand?

[Jinx]

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Can he not have something like AKhh, AJhh, KQhh etc., or does he go a bit more nuts on the flop with this type of hand?

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I don't have a read on the dude, so I have no idea what he does on the flop with AhKh. I mean he could have a draw, but you need to be good like 40% of the time to make that call, and no way you're good 40% of the time.

[jimmyhat1000]

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Can he not have something like AKhh, AJhh, KQhh etc., or does he go a bit more nuts on the flop with this type of hand?

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I don't have a read on the dude, so I have no idea what he does on the flop with AhKh. I mean he could have a draw, but you need to be good like 40% of the time to make that call, and no way you're good 40% of the time.

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no worries, thanks alot

[Darkfolder]

Hand 2 is VERY bad played...

[kongo_totte]

Cool you posted here jimmyhat1000. I just wanted to post the worst bet I have ever made. BTW, villain is jimmyhat1000.

This one is one me:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($943.97)
SB ($92.55)
BB ($559.55)
UTG ($411)
MP ($204)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $32.

Flop: ($98) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, UTG calls $65.

Turn: ($228) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($228) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, UTG calls $150.

Final Pot: $528

Results in white below:
UTG has As Qs (three of a kind, queens).
Hero has Jd Jh (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins $528.

I do apologize. This is prolly the single worst bet I have ever made. That bet is better to make w/ any single hand except the one I holding. [censored] me.

[GetThere1Time]

Hand 1 can be a call or a fold based on how lagtarded/bluffy the villian is. Readless, I generally bet the turn. Given the way you played it, I'd fold the river vs an unknown.

Dude has a set in hand 2 like always. I would also rr a bit more pf

[fsista]

Man, even though you are buddy listed and these two hands really are terribly played, you don't have to worry that I will chase you around. Fact is, you're much better than most of the fish out there, so I will leave you alone.

Fold hand one, fold hand 2.

[EgoSlasher]

Fix your PA hud before you sit down to play.

Hand 1: I don't see how you can call here, if you want to play for stacks bet the turn.
Hand 2: spewing after his raise, I'd only consider this line if opponent was a REAL big lagtard.