Dealer error...

J.A.K. · #1 12-22-2006, 01:16 PM

What is the rule when a dealer burns 2 cards instead of one then deals the river? She had already scooped up the mucked/burn cards and mixed them in the deck, so the natural order is lost.

sirpupnyc · #2 12-22-2006, 01:21 PM

Accept the erroneous river as being as random as anything you're likely to come up with by trying to fix it?

lossage · #3 12-22-2006, 02:01 PM

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What is the rule when a dealer burns 2 cards instead of one then deals the river?

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If the rule is anything other than, "accept the river card as-is, because it's a random card," I will probably cry.

DayTripping · #4 12-22-2006, 02:18 PM

[rolls eyes]

GiantBuddha · #5 12-22-2006, 02:29 PM

Cards have no value until they're face up. Unless someone's cheating.

Chipr777 · #6 12-22-2006, 02:31 PM

It would depend on if any action had taken place on the river card.

GreedIsGood · #7 12-22-2006, 03:24 PM

If the card helps my hand then it stands, otherwise it's reshuffled and a new river is dealt... Is this the kind of answer you're hoping for?

Seriously, as discribed, who could the dealt card not stand?

J.A.K. · #8 12-22-2006, 03:33 PM

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Seriously, as discribed, who could the dealt card not stand?

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It would depend on if any action had taken place on the river card.

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The player who objected only did so after seeing the river card which obviously did not help his hand (and he was bet into). Since the order of burn cards got mixed up, I assumed the rivercard would be reshuffled back into the deck and dealt again.

sirpupnyc · #9 12-22-2006, 03:50 PM

Well, if the river card is dealt before the turn action is complete, it goes back, the stub is reshuffled, and a new river is dealt.

In this case, though, if all the mucks and burns are mixed with the stub, there's no way to put out a new river without bringing cards back into play.

The erroneous river isn't the card it "should" have been, but it's as random as any other card, and anybody who wants to argue that because that card shouldn't have been the river it shouldn't get to stay the river is probably also going to argue that my preflop muck shouldn't have a chance to be the river.

GreedIsGood · #10 12-22-2006, 04:18 PM

Sorry, it was a typo. I meant "... how could the dealt card not stand.", not "... who ..."