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Old 12-22-2006, 12:58 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

Table has been very loose passive. I am pretty much the only one to make preflop raises. MP is one of the stations.
I figure if he missed whatever he's drawing at he'd fold anyway. Is this a mistake? I certainly have to do the betting for him, so I don't consider c/r an option. Make a normal vbet and extract from his marginal hands?

BTW, hands like this make me hate myself for not staying aggro...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($127.20)
BB ($99.05)
UTG ($93.80)
MP ($196.55)
CO ($49.95)
Button ($193.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB folds, MP calls $4, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($13) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP calls $10.

River: ($33) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $112.2 (All-In)</font>
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

I like it. He is never folding an ace or worse full house.
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Old 12-22-2006, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

i like it cause it looks like a busted draw, and if he has a busted draw hes not paying off a river bet anyways so this odd push will keep him guessing
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Old 12-22-2006, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

nh OP
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Old 12-22-2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

Villain fold.
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Old 12-22-2006, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

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i like it cause it looks like a busted draw, and if he has a busted draw hes not paying off a river bet anyways so this odd push will keep him guessing

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but if he has a busted draw he might bluff if you check, and is probably betting all hands that will pay off this push, so there is merit to check-raising river.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:39 PM
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i like it cause it looks like a busted draw, and if he has a busted draw hes not paying off a river bet anyways so this odd push will keep him guessing

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but if he has a busted draw he might bluff if you check, and is probably betting all hands that will pay off this push, so there is merit to check-raising river.

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there is absolutely no way im ever checking here. there is way too much he would pay off a bet with that he might just check behind. there is no question wether to bet or to check. the only question is should we just value bet or is a big push like this good. either line is fine but in this case i think a shove looks sexy as hell
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

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i like it cause it looks like a busted draw, and if he has a busted draw hes not paying off a river bet anyways so this odd push will keep him guessing

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but if he has a busted draw he might bluff if you check, and is probably betting all hands that will pay off this push, so there is merit to check-raising river.

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there is absolutely no way im ever checking here. there is way too much he would pay off a bet with that he might just check behind. there is no question wether to bet or to check. the only question is should we just value bet or is a big push like this good. either line is fine but in this case i think a shove looks sexy as hell

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What hands is he checking behind that he's calling the push with?
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: AJo river nuts to Zeebo? PP 100NL 6max

I don't really like it because he'll bet any hand that can call here, and also call a c/r. But you don't give him the chance to bluff a missed draw. Also, it seems very unlikely that he has a boat here, more likely just Ax or a FD.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:49 PM
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i like it cause it looks like a busted draw, and if he has a busted draw hes not paying off a river bet anyways so this odd push will keep him guessing

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This is never a busted draw.
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