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Old 12-20-2006, 02:45 AM
sharpie sharpie is offline
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Default JJ overpair faces heat

PFRer is 40/30 over 30 hands and is sitting down with 42 G's. PRRer is 27/17/1.9 over 200 hands and have notes he has bluff check/raised a gutshot on a paired turn, and also reraised out of the BB in a blind defense with A6o, bet a Kxx flop, checked the turn, and bet a blank river with no pair and got called by A5 high.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero???
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair faces heat

I don't think you have much other option than to just call down here. That 3-bet is a pretty strong move, but given the notes you have on him, you have to take this hand to showdown.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:58 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair faces heat

Crap, this sucks. I guess I cold-call and hope MP slows down [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]?
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair faces heat

do you still call down on a A turn?
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair faces heat

You have to coldcall this, it's too early to drop and there's not much merit in capping OOP.

Reevaluate on the turn.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair faces heat

The most obvious hands for them to hold would be a PP 7's or higher, but I don't think you can rule out a hand like A7 or AK/Q for MP.

You have represented a lot of strength, but these guys don't seem to care. On the other hand this is a very nice flop for a 88-TT hand which are definitely within these guys ranges.

If we put MP on 77+ or A7, and CO on 77+ you have about 34% equity, so there is little value to be gained by capping. I'd just call and see if they continue to go nuts on the turn. I want to show down this hand, but if an OC to your J's fall and villains keep raising it may be dfficult to get to SD.
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