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Old 12-19-2006, 06:38 AM
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Push, min raise or call ?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($4106)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($3375)</font>
SB ($2000)
BB ($3770)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $80</font>, Hero calls $80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($190) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, UTG calls $120.

Turn: ($430) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $360</font>, UTG calls $360.

River: ($1150) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $520</font>, Hero calls $520.

Final Pot: $2190
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:40 AM
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Who was this one vs?

I call fwiw.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:42 AM
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Who was this one vs?

I call fwiw.

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ahh_snap

*the table we were just at, me you him and hall
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: uhmmmmm

Kinda depends on the person. Against somebody I don't have much experience with I call or raise depending on my image.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:46 AM
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raising is def a bluff vs ahh snap here...
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:47 AM
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Who was this one vs?

I call fwiw.

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ahh_snap

*the table we were just at, me you him and hall

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i'm pretty sure this dude isn't good, and i would expect to see a weaker ace (AQ/AJ usually) alot here. i also dont think this guy could resist paying off a minraise here but may fold to a push.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:47 AM
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raising is def a bluff vs ahh snap here...

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what better hand is folding? just trying to fold a chop?
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:50 AM
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snap plays alright from what i remember, not a huge history though. i do not expect him to call w/ AQ or less if we bomb the river.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:54 AM
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yah but it's so obvious it's a blocking bet.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:12 AM
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yah but it's so obvious it's a blocking bet.

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yeah, and from what i remember playing w/ ahh snap at 600nl a couple months ago, that generally his line will represent what he has and i think he has AJ-AK quite alot here.

also i may see snap as worse then he is because he had the tendency to go full blown monkey tilt quite a bit when i played him.

i think he rarely, rarely ever has a better hand here, and i think he can pay off with AQ/AJ sometimes because 1) he knows it's a blocking bet and looks weak, and 2) isn't he a tourney donk, so he may have a hard time folding TPGK when his line looks "weak."

So I guess I feel a push might be better since to get him to feel it's a bluff.
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