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Old 12-18-2006, 11:10 PM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

Villian appears LAG so far 42/25/3 over 40

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero?
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

..bets

LAGs love the dry flop C/R but he didn't like you turn call.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

My title is meant to imply that I got checkraised, guess I should have just put that in there.... fold to c/r?
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

Against a lag? Bet/call.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

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My title is meant to imply that I got checkraised, guess I should have just put that in there.... fold to c/r?

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You'll be losing to the check-raise 90% of the time but still call:
1. If a laggy player sees you fold to a check raise on the river with what he should guess to be a reasonable hand, he'll do it with all sorts of hands in the future.
2. He might check raise the river with Ax figuring you've got some high pair like QQ.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

Btw, unless this lag bluffs a lot (and with his stats he might) you should fold the turn.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

if I'm really losing 90% of the time, I don't think I can justify calling on metagame reasons alone.

I think there is a case for folding the turn... but this is a pretty bluff friendly board
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

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if I'm really losing 90% of the time, I don't think I can justify calling on metagame reasons alone.


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There'll be almost enough in the pot after a river C/R for you to call anyway.

Few players can lay down a hand like that to a river C/R and few players can make a C/R bluff on the river. I see a lot of fish make hopeless bluff-raises into huge pots.

If people see you folding in these situations, they're going to take shots at you with their busted draws.

This coupled with the money already out there, would make me call a river C/R (and expect to lose)
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

bet/call the river. Folding the turn is silly. We have the best hand here a ton on that board.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: AQ rivers an A... b/f? b/c?

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Btw, unless this lag bluffs a lot (and with his stats he might) you should fold the turn.

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If you're routinely folding turns on these types of boards (esp. against this type of player) you will get run over. Turn is easy call, and river is a bet/call IMO.
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