25NL KK slowplayed in position

[inspir3d]

Villain is 29.52/14.29/3 over 104 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($49.41)
MP ($22.55)
Hero ($35.15)
SB ($36.92)
BB ($23.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG calls $4.50.

i put him on an overpair here.

Turn: ($16.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5.

Unlikely to push him off if he has a club, so i just bet for value.

River: ($26.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG calls $49.41 (All-In), Hero ??

would he push here with an overpair?

[corsakh]

Im sorry I might miss something.. But if you say "its unlikely to push him off if he has a club", why not shove? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[inspir3d]

because he will probably fold with a pair like 99 or TT and i don't get extra value from him

[corsakh]

Thats a different story.

If you suspect he has a club and you think he'll pay, make him pay. Hes got 15% PFR. Suited connectors are certainly in his range. $5 bet into a $16 pot on a draw heavy board is not a value bet. I'd make it around 10-12.

[inspir3d]

no, an overbet folds out smaller hands which i can get value from, and a large bet builds a pot that is too big for KK. i want to get value from non-club PP hands, yet be able to get away from Kings if a club hits. betting too large makes me pot committed on the river

[corsakh]

A much lesser hand would not call a reraise on the flop. An overpair would still probably call $10 on the turn. And you getting much better value against draws.

[pdoran10]

ugh, so much wrong here.
You are losing a ton of value by not reraising preflop.
Second, if you are going to bet the turn (which is debatable with a 1 pair hand) as played, bet it big so you know where you stand on the river.

River is a fold, you can find much better spots than this...

[Ali shmali]

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because he will probably fold with a pair like 99 or TT and i don't get extra value from him

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you also lose value to hands like QQ and JJ and club draws and straight draws