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Old 12-16-2006, 10:57 PM
TalentedTom TalentedTom is offline
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Default 180bb Middle set.

MP is a fariley loose player but I'm not sure of his shoving ranges and how he plays his monsters. My image (thus far) is a litle bit loose-aggresive but not too much, more of an ABC LAG style but I immagine this player is not aware of this and may think I'm a maniac.

He insta check-raise shoves and my instinct immiediatley tells me he has QK, no other hand makes this play, but the problem is - that logic kicks in soon after and I realize how much equity I have over drawing hands/other monsters eg. 2 pair, lower set, QQ etc..

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CO ($705.65)
TalentedTom ($1051)
SB ($539)
BB ($1085)
UTG ($1327.60)
MP ($1276.05)

Preflop: TalentedTom is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, TalentedTom calls $21, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($66) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $54</font>, <font color="#CC3333">TalentedTom raises to $154</font>, BB folds, MP calls $100.

Turn: ($374) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

MP: checks
<font color="#CC3333">TalentedTom: bets $195</font>
MP: raises $906.05 to $1101.05 and is all-in
<font color="#CC3333">TalentedTom:</font>

Thoughts?
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:03 PM
kotkis kotkis is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

are you joking?
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:05 PM
PerDoom PerDoom is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

You don't have the nuts, so it's fairly obvious that you should fold.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:09 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

Just admit it, Tom - you are samoleus reincarnated.

One of your posts involves calling a shove with king high. This one involves folding middle set.

Of course he has QK - he's OOP and peeled one off to a raise with a gutshot. TT is waaay more likely than QK.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

Hand 1: 42.7759 % 42.47% 00.30% { 9c9s }
Hand 2: 57.2241 % 56.92% 00.30% { JJ+, 3d3h, KQs, J9s+, KQo, J9o+ }

Getting over 2:1 on a less than 2:1 shot.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:17 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

Also,

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Old 12-16-2006, 11:55 PM
Chaoslord Chaoslord is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

i would instacall this and expect to see Jx of clubs QJ, JT or a (badly played) overpair a lot
only real thread is JJ imo, KQ is not very likely
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:15 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

i would totally fold a set here given we put him on calling a flop raise w/ a gutshot
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: 180bb Middle set.

I dont see how you can fold this... not even 200bbs deep -_-
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:42 AM
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