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Old 12-16-2006, 08:45 AM
ITILTEZ ITILTEZ is offline
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Default QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

Villain is weird, loose passive preflop with stats of 30/3
But plays decent postflop, but as you might guess he goes to showdown little too much. Also his agr. factor is only 0.4 after about 600 hands.
I know that he at least raises all the big pairs preflop, but don't know if he 4 bets them. My plan was to fold to 4 bet preflop, I guess no-one disagrees with that.
Few hands before this one he semibluff raised me with Ah9s on Th3h2h board and bet As turn aswell and checked blank river behind.
My image should be tight-agressive.


$5.00/$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: opp1 ($660.36)
Seat 2: opp2 ($300.00)
Seat 3: villain ($1263.75)
Seat 4: opp3 ($1030.08)
Seat 5: opp4 ($687.50)
Seat 6: Hero ($5755.85)
Opp posts small blind [$5.00]
Hero posts big blind [$10.00]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
opp1 calls [$10.00]
Villain raises [$45.00]
opp3 folds
opp4 folds
Hero raises [$130.00]
opp1 folds
Villain calls [$95.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Hero bets [$230.00]
Villain is all-In [$1123.75]
It's about $900 more for hero...
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

I plugged in this range and the board in pokerstove:

99+,66,33,AdKd,A9s,KdQd,QdJd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,87s,54 s,A9o

Range is debatable of course, but I think it probably represents his loose preflop tendencies pretty well.

It is almost exactly 50-50, so you have to call.

Removing A9o, QdJd, JdTd, is 44-56%, so still a call.

EDIT: Maybe I should have include any AK, but that would only help our hand.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

lol, don't be so silly.

I wouldn't re-raise preflop, on this flop I would fold 100%. Villain has AA.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

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I plugged in this range and the board in pokerstove:

99+,66,33,AdKd,A9s,KdQd,QdJd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,87s,54 s,A9o

Range is debatable of course, but I think it probably represents his loose preflop tendencies pretty well.

It is almost exactly 50-50, so you have to call.

Removing A9o, QdJd, JdTd, is 44-56%, so still a call.

EDIT: Maybe I should have include any AK, but that would only help our hand.

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villain raises 3%, that is obviously not his range...
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

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lol, don't be so silly.

I wouldn't re-raise preflop, on this flop I would fold 100%. Villain has AA.

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Villain is 'weird, loose passive preflop', and you put him on AA 100% of the time?
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

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lol, don't be so silly.

I wouldn't re-raise preflop, on this flop I would fold 100%. Villain has AA.

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Villain is 'weird, loose passive preflop', and you put him on AA 100% of the time?

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when he does this, yes

edit : He could have AKd etc but you are crushed. AA is most likely.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

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[ QUOTE ]
I plugged in this range and the board in pokerstove:

99+,66,33,AdKd,A9s,KdQd,QdJd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,87s,54 s,A9o

Range is debatable of course, but I think it probably represents his loose preflop tendencies pretty well.

It is almost exactly 50-50, so you have to call.

Removing A9o, QdJd, JdTd, is 44-56%, so still a call.

EDIT: Maybe I should have include any AK, but that would only help our hand.

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villain raises 3%, that is obviously not his range...

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Yeah, missed that one. Forget I said anything.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

fold.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

Yeah fold is good here.
With KK I would call.
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair against loose passive 5/10

Yeah I thought in my head that KK is call and JJ is fold, QQ was kind of hard..
The problem with pokerstove analysis is that you cant weight the range, I mean opponent can have something like 54, but it's way way more unlikely then some big pair.
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