Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Topics > Business, Finance, and Investing
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-04-2006, 11:37 AM
surfinillini surfinillini is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,483
Default Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

Thinking of deposting 1K into Etrade and dabbling a little bit...is this a good place to start or should I use a different site?

Any general advice would be helpful
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:14 PM
eastbay eastbay is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,123
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

[ QUOTE ]
Thinking of deposting 1K into Etrade and dabbling a little bit...is this a good place to start or should I use a different site?

Any general advice would be helpful

[/ QUOTE ]

I think an ETrade commish is $12.95 or something like that. So if you go in w/ your $1k and buy five stocks, you just started 6.5% in the hole. Even if you just held all year you'd have to get decent returns just to break even. If you wanted to turn over every 6 months now you'd have to do really well just to break even.

IMO you'll get as much or more out of paper trading than trying to invest or trade $1k in stocks.

While you're paper trading, turn your $1k in $20k playing poker. Then start with that.

eastbay
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-04-2006, 07:26 PM
GME GME is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 305
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

It depends what you are thinking of trading. If you are looking to trade stocks this is fine, but if you want to mess around with options you will need to deposit substantially more.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-04-2006, 08:16 PM
surfinillini surfinillini is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,483
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

[ QUOTE ]
It depends what you are thinking of trading. If you are looking to trade stocks this is fine, but if you want to mess around with options you will need to deposit substantially more.

[/ QUOTE ]

stocks only, and not too expensive ones either
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (>\'.\')>
Posts: 3,394
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

It's not really the price of the stocks that eastbay was worrying about. It's the commissions in relation to your starting bankroll. Everytime you make a purchase, you're paying 1+% of your bankroll. If you make small purchases, let's say 4 shares of a $50 stock, then you're paying $13 on a $200 purchase. $26 total, after you sell. So just to breakeven, you'd need to get returns of 13%. And most people planning to dabble, aren't going to be holding some 4 share purchase for 2 years. So it's unlikely that you'll make that 13% on average.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-04-2006, 08:28 PM
erby erby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 188
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

what about small cap no-load mutual funds?

ERBY [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-04-2006, 09:15 PM
surfinillini surfinillini is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,483
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

[ QUOTE ]
It's not really the price of the stocks that eastbay was worrying about. It's the commissions in relation to your starting bankroll. Everytime you make a purchase, you're paying 1+% of your bankroll. If you make small purchases, let's say 4 shares of a $50 stock, then you're paying $13 on a $200 purchase. $26 total, after you sell. So just to breakeven, you'd need to get returns of 13%. And most people planning to dabble, aren't going to be holding some 4 share purchase for 2 years. So it's unlikely that you'll make that 13% on average.

[/ QUOTE ]

but if I sign up I think I get 100 free trades
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-04-2006, 09:24 PM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (>\'.\')>
Posts: 3,394
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

Oh, well in that case, I guess 1k is ok to "dabble" with.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-04-2006, 09:25 PM
surfinillini surfinillini is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,483
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

[ QUOTE ]
Oh, well in that case, I guess 1k is ok to "dabble" with.

[/ QUOTE ]

any sites with lower commissions, like around $5, what about ameritrade.

I want to sign up somewhere that other people can recommend, not just look at their website.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-04-2006, 09:42 PM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (>\'.\')>
Posts: 3,394
Default Re: Thinking of Opening an ETrade Acct - Advice?

Ameritrade Izone offers $5 trades, but it's a 5k minimum. BrownCo offers $5 trades too, but I don't know what their minimums are. Scottrade offers $7 trades with either a $0 or $500 minimum (can't remember). I can't really offer recommendations, because I use Fidelity personally.

But it seems like people on this board usually recommend Scottrade for people who want to invest in stocks, and Vanguard for people who want to invest in mutual funds, or for Roth IRAs. Some people have mentioned though, that you can't deposit into a Scottrade account online or something. Maybe it's just the initial deposit. You should check up on that first. Oh, Ameritrade Izone doesn't allow the first deposit to be ACH. It has to be wire, or a check. They have some stupid rule where you can't make an ACH deposit > your current account balance, so with an initial balance of $0, oops sorry. Pretty pointless rule if you ask me.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.