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Old 12-14-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default 88 value bet gone wrong?

villan has limped alot pf, has not done too much otherwise. just got at the table. hero has no image yet.

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Hero ($210)
SB ($184.30)
BB ($126)
UTG ($397.15)
MP ($55)
CO ($440.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP folds, CO calls $15.

Turn: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, CO calls $39.

River: ($129) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $180</font>, Hero ?
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

[censored]...that's nasty. nice bet on the river. but now i think it's a fold. he hsa to expect you to call with just about anything.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

the dbitel thm no.3:

"river raises are always the nuts or close to it"
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

[ QUOTE ]
the dbitel thm no.3:

"river raises are almost always the nuts or close to it"

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Old 12-14-2006, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

Is it just me or is your bet sizing standard in this spot. I tend to bet more than 3/4 with draws out.

I hate it, but I think you have to fold. Like dbitel said, river raises are usually not bluffs.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

i never bet odd #'s but i like his bet sizing
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

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Is it just me or is your bet sizing standard in this spot. I tend to bet more than 3/4 with draws out.

I hate it, but I think you have to fold. Like dbitel said, river raises are usually not bluffs.

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what do u mean? and how does it apply to this hand?
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

This is a fold. Bad card. Move on. Especially since you hinted he's passive.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

k i talked myself into a call (retardedly) and he had A2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] obv. i really think that this is a fold after looking at it.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 88 value bet gone wrong?

FWIW, i'd bet less on river, maybe 60 or so
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