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Old 12-14-2006, 01:52 PM
MINETZ MINETZ is offline
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Default QQ semi deep oop

FTP 2/4

I have no history /w villan and no reads

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Psy opens to 12 utg, sb calls, i make it 54, psy pauses then calls.

2 to the flop for 118 flop 2cTh6h. I bet 80, he makes it 192 quickly, whats my action?
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

Just shove now. If he's bluffing/has worse you calling is most likely going to shut him down and he's not going to fold a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw at this point.
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

You need to play your hand and listen to jrbrick. There's nothing else you can do. If you end up losing, that's part of the game. I don't think you can get away now.
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:14 PM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

You didn't mention if you had a heart, which could be important. Anyway, think about it..1/4 of your stack to call. Thus, if any under card flops, you will be pot committed (Pot is about 500 with you have in like 560). So calling is out. Period. Reraise all in or fold on the spot. Does he usually make it 3 or 3.5 x bb? if he has just reduced his standard raise UTG, glean a tell.
FYI, the raise represents some weakness because he didn't pot it. If you have no read, fold. Otherwise all in is the only option
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

you are marginally infront of AK/AQ maybe KQ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], way ahead of an unlikely JJ and miles behind AA, KK, TT.

w/ no read I think this should be a fold.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:16 PM
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woops I thought we had TT here... don't know why that was.


Actually this might be a place to check on the flop. Ugh forget what I said before I relly don't know what to do here w/o a read. But yeah I agree w/ jkkk that this is probably going to be a fold.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

Insta muck
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:50 PM
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insta muck yes
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: QQ semi deep oop

It's push or fold, and having no reads against an UTG raiser makes me believe this could be KK-AA. I lean towards fold because of his smallish raise that wants you to push over it, and his range to make that move with the amount of strength you've shown isn't that wide.
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