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Old 12-13-2006, 03:45 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default 2pair 200BBs deep

Villain is a tricky 30/22 type. 3bets very light etc.

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~$1000 eff stacks

2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero raises to $15</font> with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], <font color="red"> Villain raises to $60 </font>, blinds fold, Hero calls

Flop: 2 players, $127 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero bets $75</font>(trying to induce a raise), Villain calls

Turn: 2 players, $277 A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero bets $215 </font>, <font color="red"> Villain raises all in </font>

Its about $600 more to call. What do you think of the line? Do you call here?
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

This is a obvious call in a re-raised pot, sorry if you got some kind of weird cold deck.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

so what does op beat that is shoving that turn?
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

i call
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

Villain's range would have to include AK correct, also he could be using the ace as a scare card. BTW, I don't really like the preflop call from oop with a drawing type hand.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
RERAISE5823 RERAISE5823 is offline
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

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so what does op beat that is shoving that turn?

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A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or most pair plus draws. Call.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

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Villain's range would have to include AK correct, also he could be using the ace as a scare card. BTW, I don't really like the preflop call from oop with a drawing type hand.

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AK would only be AKc, and probably would not shove turn

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so what does op beat that is shoving that turn?

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A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or most pair plus draws. Call.

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I would imagine that a drawing hand with showdown value would not shove the turn...
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

True:
You are assuming the villain is a good player. I think there is a good chance that the villain puts hero on a hand like JJ or QQ, and is trying to bluff him off the hand. There is also chance that he has AA, and puts hero on a set. Either way AA is the only hand I can see the hero behind against, so I think you have to call.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Ebonwoulfe Ebonwoulfe is offline
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

I don't think I can find a fold here. I think there's a good chance he's trying to leverage the A. I think he has something like 99 and is hoping the A will scare you off a bigger PP (which he thinks you might have).

I don't think AA would just call that flop, unless doing it for pot control reasons. It's awfully draw heavy.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

Im using my first strategy post in a month to tell you to [censored] call this.
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