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Old 12-13-2006, 10:32 AM
kevstreet kevstreet is offline
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Default STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

I just started playing on Poker Stars. According to Sharkscope my ROI is 5% after approx 550 STTs (I know - not much of a sample size). And this doesn't bother me in the least. However, recently I'm questioning my play because I think I'm making some mistakes and taking wayyy too many thirds.

1.) Does everyone shove this hand?

$27 STT - Blinds 200/400 antes 25

BB 897
SB 4957
Hero 3615
UTG 4031

UTG folds, Hero T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

As for reads, SB hasn't done anything out of the ordinary and it would make sense for BB to have a huge range here, right?

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2.) What's your line?

$27 STT - Blinds 75/150

HERO 1900
SB 2400
BUTTON 3500
CO 2000
UTG 4200

Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 450, fold, fold, Button calls, HERO?

Nothing fancy from anyone thus far...

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3.) An observation: On a $16 table I played against a player that 10-12 tables with a Sharkscope ROI of 15% after a bajillion tournies. He raised from UTG+2 (full table), second level w/ ATo? In fact, BB was very short and was basically forced to call. Am I too tight? Unless I'm CO or the button or it's late game I'm not thinking of playing this hand from so early.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:41 AM
TheMayor TheMayor is offline
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

The first hand I would fold, BB is calling with any two and T8o isn't great against that range. Plus the SB may actually have a hand.

Second hand I would push. 5 handed AJs is pretty good, the button's cold call is dead money, and UTG can be 3x raising a wide-ish range. UTG will be getting a little bit less than 2:1 so i think you have some fold equity.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

Both of these look like pretty easy folds to me. This is assuming your "nothing fancy" comment means utg hasn't been too aggressive/raising a ton of pots with his big stack.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

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Second hand I would push. 5 handed AJs is pretty good, the button's cold call is dead money, and UTG can be 3x raising a wide-ish range. UTG will be getting a little bit less than 2:1 so i think you have some fold equity.

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I would tend to respect utg raises and not try a squeeze here.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

1) easy fold
2) fold, dont know about AQs.
3) just fold ATo this early.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

Fold and fold. First hand you have a weak hand, have a nice stack and there's a big chance shortie will bust very soon. In the second hand, you have to respect that the raise is from UTG
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

3 folds. the AJ hand is close I had to unlearn this (and still am)
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

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An observation: On a $16 table I played against a player that 10-12 tables with a Sharkscope ROI of 15% after a bajillion tournies. He raised from UTG+2 (full table), second level w/ ATo? In fact, BB was very short and was basically forced to call. Am I too tight? Unless I'm CO or the button or it's late game I'm not thinking of playing this hand from so early.


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I wouldn't look too much into this. A player can make some loose raises like this and still be a substantial winner as long has he doesn't overplay his hand postflop. It probably isn't a good raise, but if the rest of his game is good this isn't a play that is going to cost him a lot of money.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

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3 folds. the AJ hand is close I had to unlearn this (and still am)

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QFT (including the unlearning part)
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: STTs: I\'m missing pushes, and second guessing every move.

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3 folds. the AJ hand is close I had to unlearn this (and still am)

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QFT (including the unlearning part)

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same, too many calls when beat and too few when ahead.
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